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Honeywell, now operating under the name Honeywell Technologies, spun off Honeywell Aerospace as an independent company in June 2026. Honeywell International has completed its transformation from a century-old industrial conglomerate into three independent, publicly traded companies: Honeywell Technologies, Honeywell Aerospace, and Solstice Advanced Materials.

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Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Honeywell Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question and answer session. Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to hand the call over to Sean Meakim, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Thank you. Good morning and welcome to Honeywell's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. On the call with me today are Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Vimal Kapoor and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Mike Stepniak. This webcast and the presentation materials, including non GAAP reconciliations, are available on our Investor Relations website. From time to time, we post new information that may be of interest or material to our investors on this website.

Our discussion today includes forward looking statements that are based on our best view of the world and of our businesses as we see them today and are subject to risks and uncertainties, including the ones described in our SEC filings. This morning, we will review our financial results for the second quarter, share our guidance for the third quarter and provide an update on full year 2025. As always, we'll leave time for your questions at the end.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Chairman and CEO, Vinyl Kapoor.

Thank you, Sean, and good morning, everyone. Honeywell again delivered solid results in the second quarter meeting or exceeding all our financial commitments in a time of significant global economic change. Our organic sales and orders growth both accelerated during this quarter as we are seeing the benefit of our consistent spending and execution on new product development across our businesses. Given the strong first half performance, we are raising sales and earnings guidance for the full year while incorporating into our outlook all currently known tariffs and the uncertain business conditions going forward. Our proactive, multi pronged mitigation efforts, coordinating closely with suppliers and customers on productivity and pricing initiatives have been working as planned.

And because of our systemic approach, we are in a position to deliver strong sales, profit and cash flow growth in 2025. As our business leaders have been solely focused on meeting and exceeding our financial commitment, management and the Board have been fulfilling our promise to transform our portfolio ahead of our upcoming separation to best position each of the future independent companies for success. Throughout the comprehensive portfolio review I initiated shortly after becoming CEO, we have diligently analyzed how to further simplify and optimize Honeywell. Earlier this month, we entered the final stage of this process, announcing our intention to pursue strategic alternatives for our Productivity Solution and Services and Warehouse and Workflow Solutions businesses. The results of this pursuit, whatever they may be, will clarify the standalone automation company's go forward strategy and value proposition.

With many changes in flight, our dedicated separation management office have kept us right on track to execute our spin off transaction, both on time and without commercial disruption. Let's now turn to Slide three for further update on our formation of three industry leading public companies. We continue to make great progress along with the path to separate into three independent companies, which we believe will maximize long term value for all Honeywell stakeholders. As independent entities with clear alignment and purpose, increase organization agility and customize capital allocation priorities, each will be better positioned to accelerate future growth opportunities. Given the pace of our progress, we cannot narrow the timing for the spin off Solstice Advanced Materials to Honeywell shareholders to the fourth quarter of this year.

Solstice share will trade under the ticker SOLS Solstice on the NASDAQ stock exchange. A few weeks prior to the spin, the Solstice leadership team will host an Investor Day in New York. They will lay out in detail the powerful investment case for this innovative market leader in the secularly growing advanced materials market that will carry on Honeywell's legacy of operational excellence. We hope you will join CEO, David Svell, and his team at this event. We're also making great progress on aerospace spin, which is planned for the second half of next year.

Last month, Aerospace President, Jim Courier and I presented an investor reception ahead of Paris Air Show. Jim highlighted Aero's industry leading position as a mission critical supplier of systems across aerospace verticals and platforms. In addition, he provided insights into drivers for our strong growth profile underpinned by a broad aerospace and defense upcycle, which we enhanced with a powerful decoupled sales initiative, ongoing supply chain transformation effort and robust research and development investments over time. We look forward to providing you with more details on standalone Honeywell Aerospace in coming quarters. And yet, we are not waiting for the separation to reshape our portfolio for future growth.

We continue to selectively deploy capital towards acquisition, announcing two new deals in the past couple of months. We are also looking to recycle capital, as I discussed earlier, by pursuing alternative for businesses that do not fit our future. In combination of these actions, we'll drive value creation as we await becoming separately publicly traded vehicles. If you turn to Slide four, I will discuss our recent portfolio announcement in more detail. In June, we agreed to GBP 1,800,000,000.0 bolt on purchase of Johnson's Methys Catalyst Technology business.

We have long identified our UOP Process Technology business as a natural owner of this highly complementary business because it gives us additional capabilities in sustainable methanol, sustainable aviation fuel, hydrogen and ammonia to better serve our extensive customer base. It also brings attractive sales from catalysts, which fit very well with our existing offerings. The transaction is expected to close in the 2026 and will enhance our growth and margin profile over time while providing a strong financial return. In early July, we also announced a technology tuck in acquisition of Linetamer that enhances our building automation capability in high growth energy storage and data center end markets. While such smaller deals do not often get much investment attention, in aggregate, they can accelerate our strategic roadmap and boost growth with a low risk profile.

We recently announced our intent to evaluate strategic alternatives for our PSS and warehouse automation businesses. Just as we want to acquire businesses such as Catalyst Technologies and Loin Tamer, where we believe we are a natural owner, we must also acknowledge when the time comes, then we better owner parts of our portfolio. We're looking to create a pure play automation company with a consistent business model and focus end of end markets in which we have durable competitive advantages. Both PSS and Integrated have strong customer bases, long history of innovation and best in class operation, and we will evaluate options for them from a position of strength. To avoid interfering with the review process, we will hold further updates until it's completed.

I will now turn it over to Mike to provide more details on our excellent second quarter results.

Thank you, Vimal, and good morning, everyone. Let's begin on Slide five. In the second quarter, we built upon a strong start to the year as we again exceeded our guidance for organic sales growth and adjusted earnings per share. Our results demonstrate the resilience of our accelerator operating system to adapt to changes in the environment quickly and deliver on our financial commitments. At the same time, we remain committed not to compromise on our investment in growth initiatives as we are beginning to see evidence of our progress.

Second quarter sales grew 5% organically with three out of our four segments above this level. Defense and Space and UOP led growth with double digit performances. Segment profit expanded 8% from the prior year in line with sales as segment margin finished nearly flat and within our guidance range. Margin expansion in Building Automation and Industrial Automation and lower corporate costs were slightly more than offset by margin pressure in Aerospace Technologies and Energy and Sustainability Solutions. An increase in research and development expense, up 60 basis points as percentage of sales from the previous year to 4.6%, pushed down current period margin at the segment level, but will enhance future period growth.

Earnings per share in the second quarter was $2.45 per share, up 4% from the prior year, while adjusted earnings per share was $2.75 per share, up 10% year over year. Organic and inorganic segment profit growth as well as the lower tax rate more than offset headwinds from higher interest expense and lower pension income. You can find a bridge for adjusted earnings per share from 2Q twenty twenty four to 2Q twenty twenty five in the appendix of this presentation. Orders were $10,500,000,000 in the quarter, up 6% year over year excluding the effect of acquisitions and divestitures led by strong double digit increase in aerospace orders. Backlog grew 10% organically from the prior year to a new record of $36,600,000,000 Second quarter free cash flow was $1,000,000,000 down roughly $100,000,000 from the previous year as tariff related cost inflation pushed up inventory levels and capital project spending expanded as planned.

We continue to dynamically allocate our excess cash flow and balance sheet capacity based upon the best opportunities the market presents to us. During the second quarter, our capital deployment was well balanced with $2,200,000,000 used to complete the accretive acquisition of Sanddine and over $2,400,000,000 returned to shareholders, roughly $1,700,000,000 of share repurchases and $700,000,000 of dividends. We also allocated $300,000,000 for capital projects. Now let's turn to slide six to discuss our second quarter performance by segment. I will give a high level view of results and with additional commentary provided on the right hand side of the slide.

In the second quarter, Aerospace Technologies grew 6% organically, highlighted by another strong quarter of our Defense and Space and Commercial Aftermarket businesses. Segment margin contracted 170 basis points to 25.5% as 11% output growth, commercial excellence and productivity actions were more than offset by higher cost inflation and the impact of Case acquisition. In Industrial Automation, sales were above our guidance range, coming in flat on an organic basis. Segment margin expanded 20 basis points to 19.2% driven by productivity actions and commercial excellence, which more than compensated for cost pressures. In May, we completed the sale of the PPE business, which will be accretive to organic growth and margins in the second half of the year.

Building Automation delivered another quarter that surpassed our expectations, with sales increasing 8% organically from the previous year. Second quarter margin expanded 90 basis points year over year led by volume leverage and full quarter benefit from Access Solutions. Energy and Sustainability Solutions sales grew 6% organically in the second quarter exceeding our expectations driven by double digit growth in EOP. Segment margin contracted 110 basis points to 24.1% as volume leverage and benefit from the margin accretive LNG acquisitions were more than offset by impact from a customer settlement as well as cost inflation. Now move to slide seven to discuss our third quarter and full year guidance.

Our first half outperformance has given us confidence to increase our outlook for the year even as we remain cautious regarding the lagging effect on business demand from tariff announced in recent months. Despite this, our framework for the year remains largely unchanged. We're factoring in non tariffs as they are written assuming any moratorium means a later revision to higher rates, net of all of our mitigation actions. Keeping in close communication with our customers and suppliers, we remain committed to fully offsetting the effect of these tariffs with a combination of productivity, pricing and alternative sourcing as we balance protecting both margins and demand. We are raising the lower end of our full year organic sales growth guidance range by 200 basis points.

Factoring in our first half performance and recent short cycle order trends, we now project growth of 4% to 5% for the year or 3% to 4% when excluding the prior year impact from the Bombardier agreement. While year to date results have exceeded previous expectations, we're maintaining a pragmatic approach to the back half. We have increasingly seen large energy projects and catalyst spend, which can carry attractive incremental margins in our European Process Solutions business pushed out into 2026 because of macroeconomic and legislative uncertainty. Full year sales are now projected to $40,800,000,000 to $41,300,000,000 driven primarily higher by better organic growth, tailwinds from foreign currency translation and the additional revenue from the Sanday acquisition in June. We expect year over year organic sales improvement to be similar in both the third and fourth quarter when excluding the impact of the Bombardier agreement in the fourth quarter of last year.

We anticipate a third quarter organic sales growth of 2% to 4%, which equates to $10,000,000,000 to $10,300,000,000 For the full year, we now expect our overall segment margin to be up 40 to 60 basis points or be down 30 to 10 basis points ex Bombardier. Reduced margin expectations from the prior guidance stemmed from the high decrementals of delayed energy project work and the lag effect of pricing relative to tariff related cost pressures in our Aerospace business. In the third quarter, segment margin is anticipated to be in the range of 22.7% to 23.1%, down 90 basis points to down 50 basis points from the prior year with BA margins expanding, ESA's margin roughly flat, IA margin contracting modestly and Aero margin similar to its second quarter level. We now expect full year earnings per share of $10.45 to $10.65 up 6% to 8% or up 1% to 3% excluding the 2024 impact of the Bombardier agreement. Earnings per share in the third quarter is anticipated to be $2.5 to $2.6 down percent to up 1% from the prior year.

I will provide further details on changes to our full year EPS guidance later in the presentation. We continue to expect free cash flow for the year between $5,400,000,000 to $5,800,000,000 down 2% to up 5% ex Bombardier, which remains approximately in line with adjusted earnings per share growth. We'll give additional information on changes in free cash flow from the prior year in the appendix. Having deployed $7,800,000,000 in the first half of the year for share repurchases, acquisitions, dividends and capital projects, remain opportunistic in allocating additional capital beyond that already committed for the rest of the year. To summarize, our strong execution in the first half has raised the bar for the year, even as we prioritize setting prudent expectations in a highly dynamic environment.

Focusing on what we can control, our company remains poised for strong performance ahead of our pending separations. I'll now turn to slide eight to give high level overview of our outlook by segment with further details by business unit provided in the commentary portion of the slide. In Aerospace Technologies, we continue to anticipate full year sales growth in the high single digit range or mid single digit to high single digit when excluding the impact of the 2024 Bombardier agreement. Supported by supply chain unlock and elevated global demand amid geopolitical conflicts, our defense and space business should lead segment growth for the year. Commercial aftermarket growth remains consistent with air transport currently stronger than business aviation.

We still expect commercial OE sales to recover and grow in the back half of the year as customers work down existing inventories, allowing our sales to better align with OE build rates. For the third quarter, organic sales are expected to be up mid single digits to high single digits led by Defense and Space with continued solid growth in commercial aftermarket and commercial OE no longer a drag. Margins for the third quarter should be consistent with the prior quarter. For the full year, margins are expected to approach 26% as volume leverage is more than offset by the impact of acquisitions and as tariff driven cost inflation temporarily outpaces pricing. In Industrial Automation, we are increasing our 2025 sales outlook to down low single digits to down mid single digits given second quarter top line results and short cycle orders holding up better to date than initially feared in April, though still down year over year.

Order declines are not contained to IA short cycle businesses given long cycle pressures from delayed energy customer CapEx decisions. We expect full year IA margin to be roughly flat versus 2024 as incremental tariff related cost inflation and volume deleverage are offset by commercial excellence, improved productivity and second half accretion from the PPE sale. For the third quarter, we also anticipate a similar sales performance as full year as growth in sensing, thermal solutions and warehouse and workflow solutions is offset by muted demand in PSS and project timing delays in core process solutions. Margins are expected to contract modestly from the previous year, but increased sequentially. In Building Automation, we are raising our 2025 sales outlook for the second consecutive quarter as 2Q sales exceeded expectations and second half prospects have improved from our view in April given solid order trends.

As a result, we now expect mid single digit to high single digit organic sales growth. Products and solutions should grow at similar rates through the second half, driven by software led new product introductions, momentum in The U. S. And high growth regions and customer wins in focus verticals. For the third quarter, we anticipate sales to be up mid single digits as comps from the prior year become modestly more difficult in the back half.

We expect Building Automation to expand margins meaningfully for the third quarter and for the year supported by volume leverage and productivity actions. In Energy and Sustainability Solutions, we're slightly reducing our organic sales growth outlook to reflect a more cautious capital spending posture from UOP's energy customers. We now expect full year sales to be flat to up slightly. Advanced Materials should lead growth in the second half on improving demand tailwinds and the uplift from easing priority comps in Fluorine products. We anticipate full year ESS margin to remain roughly flat as commercial excellence and uplift from the LNG acquisition are offset by less favorable mix from reduced high margin project and catalyst sale and cost inflation.

In the third quarter, we expect ESS sales to decline low single digits with growth in Advanced Materials offset by lower EOP projects and the headwind from the timing of catalyst shipments shifting forward into the second quarter. Just as for the full year, margin is anticipated to be around flat to 2024. Now let's move to slide nine to walk through our 2025 EPS bridge. We see organic segment growth contributing an additional $0.13 per share for the full year in line with our view in the prior quarter. While second quarter results finished above our guided range, the performance included a couple of cents of benefit above the line from the Sanday acquisition and few extra weeks of owning PPE.

It also included some European catalyst shipments that were expected to occur later in the year. As a result, we are largely maintaining our outlook for the second half of the year with some pluses and minuses under the surface. Organic sales should be better both in Building Automation and Industrial Automation, which we do not anticipate being down as much as contemplated in April. However, segment margin will be pressured some in IA because of negative mix from reduced demand for energy projects and in aerospace because of pricing increases lagging behind tariff related cost inflation. Acquisitions are now expected to add roughly $0.40 per share to $20.25 EPS with Sanddine being added into the mix.

The impact of FX, quarterly tax rates and below the line items are fairly straightforward in the bridge. As the company focuses its transformational efforts on completing two spin off transactions, repositioning projects have slowed. However, we anticipate more spending in the second half of the year and return to a normalized level post separation. Additional details on these items are available in the appendix of this presentation. I'll now hand the call back over to Wimal to conclude our prepared remarks.

Thank you, Mike. Honeywell performed admirably in the 2025 with back to back quarters that delivered earnings above the high end of our target ranges. Our investment in innovation is gaining traction, driving improved sales growth and yet another record quarter for our backlog. On the back of this operational momentum, we are raising our organic sales growth and adjusted earnings per share guide for the year, while being mindful that we may not yet have felt the full impact of escalation of global tariff rates in recent months. Business demand has remained resilient in most sectors and geographic regions thus far, but we are well prepared for potential changes ahead in the macro, regulatory and geopolitical environment utilizing a playbook that has served us well over many cycles.

As our businesses focus on delivering our financial targets, we have also made substantial progress in transforming our portfolio to maximize their value. Through separation, acquisition and divestitures, we are simplifying Honeywell for investors, customers and our future shapers. All our transactions are proceeding according to plan. Even as the first chapter of my tenure as CEO comes closer to an end with the conclusion of the comprehensive portfolio review, our dynamic approach to capital allocation and portfolio optimization remains evergreen. We are confident that the combination of our accelerating growth and high return capital deployment will compound the value of Honeywell going forward. With that, Sean, let's take questions.

Thank you, Vimal. Vimal and Mike are now available to answer your questions. We ask that you please be mindful of others in the queue by only asking one question and one related follow Operator, please open the line for Q and A.

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question and answer session. Our first question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays Bank. Your line is now open.

Hi, good morning. Just maybe wanted to start off with Aerospace to try and understand kind of the moving parts there. I suppose it sounded in Paris as if there was a bit more confidence around sort of supply chain issues and getting those resolved and that might help the commercial OE top line, but it seems something sort of moved the other way. So just trying to understand is that BGA or large commercial, what's the pace at which commercial OE sales improve? And on the margin front, should we think about this sort of 25 to 26% margin being the new sort of baseline for the next twelve or eighteen months?

Good morning, Julien. How are you? So I would say, first, orders in Aerospace, extremely strong, continue to be strong on all fronts, defense and space, commercial OE, etcetera. What do we see in our commercial OE in the second quarter, it's really a transitory item, I would say. We experienced some destocking with one of our OEMs and we expect those our shipments to normalize to OE build rates in the second half.

So I feel very confident that you will see better OE profile from us in the second half. But like I said, we feel quite bullish on aero performance for the year. From a margin standpoint, as we talked earlier, we were integrating case and that's about 100 bps drag for us year over year. That's going to start to normalize in the next year. Case, by the way, is growing revenue this year at high double digits.

So it's ahead of our pro form a really encouraged by that. And we also year over year are putting about $200,000,000 of incremental R and D into the Aerospace business to help support our NPI growth and new revenue next year. So I think in the second half, margin profile for Aero will be better than what you've seen this quarter. And like I said, I'm quite confident about the high single digit growth on revenue for the rest of the year.

The only thing, Julien, I'll add is everything what Mike said is, is all transitionary issue items. If you see the margin related discussions we have, the OE mix is a transition because of the destocking. R and D is we evaluate it to a level we can perform for the future. So that's going to become new normal. And then case acquisition is only going become tailwind in the future.

So these are not your other question, is it a new baseline? Answer is no because these issues are transitionary, and we have very high confidence on the aero margin projections we have laid out.

Got it. And just following up on that, Vimal. So the sort of R and D hike, you think by the end of this year kind of R and D to sales in aero shouldn't be a headwind next year and then case margins start to improve over the next year Yes. Or

Both statements are true. And then the OED stocking issue also goes away because the rates will converge to normal baseline. That's why I mentioned these are all transitionary issues. By the way, on the R and D spend, the R and D spend rises not only in aerospace, it's across all four segments of Honeywell. We feel continued confidence on our ability to accelerate organic growth through new products.

We see part of that happening in building automation, pockets of industrial automation, aerospace, we talked about wins. But overall, we have a meaningful acceleration of R and D spend for the right projects. And this is going to set up a new baseline for Honeywell for the future. So this is again a transitionary for the overall company. We don't expect that to repeat in the year ahead at the same level.

Our next question is from Andrew Obin with Bank of America. Your line is now live.

Yes. Can we just talk a little bit about UOP? And my question is very strong growth this quarter, but you're seemingly talking it down for the second half of the year. Can we just understand what verticals drove the upside and what verticals are driving the downside if we could disaggregate it? Thank you.

I would say, Andrew, for the quarter two, we had two favorable items. We had a big licensing agreement with a customer, which gave us long strong growth. And also Catalyst sales were much stronger in Q2. So some of the Catalysts got pulled through from second half to first half. So that's more of a cycle of this long cycle business.

To the second part of your question, the impact we see is energy project spend is moving more to the right. Part of it is, I would say, economic uncertainty with cost settled in and some of the regulatory items which got clarified with O B3 regulations. So we do believe they will settle. But clearly, we saw pressure on that for rest of the year, which we have reflected in our guide for ESS business and to a certain degree also in IEA for process automation.

And I would just add that just looking at the OB3 and the IRA, it's mostly preserved for us. So it's not really a headwind for us into next year.

I got you. And then on Industrial Automation, just a follow-up. So HPS similar dynamics. So is it fair to say that when you say we can demand and price cost deleverage on the second half in the slide that it mostly relates to HPS and that's what's driving sort of slightly lower margin outlook there. Is that the key driver?

Yes. Primarily, would say in case of HPS, the same energy projects, the projects part of the business will see the similar pressure. The services side remains strong. Mike, anything you want to add on the

Just I would just say Benoit continue to be prudent about the second half. I love moving parts. I feel confident we'll be able to deliver on the guide that we put a problem, but just continue to be prudent on the second half, especially around the short cycle orders.

But you don't have one specific industry vertical region to call out other than this big tariff uncertainty?

That's correct. No, absolutely right. I mean, in fact, we see much more balanced growth across the world. Now, of course, U. S.

Remains the leading growth, no doubt about it. But the headwinds we saw a couple of quarters last year, in particular, on Europe and China have subsides now. So the growth is more normalized across the globe with The U. S. Being the leading growth.

Our next question is from Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research. Your line is now open.

Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Just want to pick up on maybe the first couple of questions. Just on the NG project timing, I guess, is that mainly on the clean NG project? So is it just large process projects in general?

And then maybe just a final point on Aero margins. It seems like tariff inflation should be better news today than it was back in April. So I'm just curious what additional inflationary pressures you see in Aero?

So ninth level energy project, just to kind of dig into little details you're asking for, I'll provide into a couple of buckets. LNG remained very strong. The business we acquired is performing extremely well, and we remain very bullish on LNG. So that's going to benefit ESS. That's going to benefit process our mission because our two in a box strategy.

Sustainable fuels projects are the ones which are most impacted moving to the right. I think they were primarily policy around IRA, how will they fold out with OB3. Now things have got cleared up in last ten days. So we do believe that will that should bring up the positive momentum. On the traditional refining petrochemical side, I would say that we saw higher catalyst spend in Q2.

In fact, few got accelerated, which led to strong performance for Q2. But we do see some weakening demand there. I think customers are more cautious on making large catalyst spend in certain segments. But overall, I think the performance, we had a chance to attend OPEC meeting a couple of days back, and the outlook for Energy segment remains extremely bullish across the core gas, refining, biomass based products coming on in the future. So our outlook remains extremely bullish.

I think we're just going through a typical cycle in the Energy right now.

And then on the aero question, what I would tell you is that if you look at tariffs, tariffs when we incur tariffs, we pay them in ten days. It's easy to pass tariffs as far as timing on short cycle businesses. When it comes to aerospace and our OE contracts, these matters take a longer time because you have to open the contract and these contracts usually are set for ten years and prescribed by Cerner frameworks. So the team is working through it, and it will take them a little bit longer to to get that price aligned with with the cost as we as we obviously keep in mind that how we impact our customers.

And Mike, could you maybe just touch on the changes to the R and D tax expensing for tax purposes? You've got about $1,000,000,000 of deferred tax assets in your So balance just how does that unwind over the next couple of years?

Yes. So I would say, it's obviously net positive for us. And we'll right now, we're just evaluating it with our tax team thinking through given we have all those things going on and the separation on how to unwind in the best way. It's a I would say, it's a tailwind for us for 2026 and 2027. But we'll have more to say about it as we go into next year.

But you are correct, this is a tailwind for us.

Our next question comes from Steve Tusa with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Just trying to like get to the margin guide for the year. You guys have given some good detail. I guess for I think to get into the range, is building automation like close to 28 this year? Is that roughly the right ballpark?

I would say, it really depends how you look at it and where you look at it. On the product side, where we see the incrementals are extremely high for us right now. Projects is a bit lower, but I would say incrementals are quite high.

Yes, Steve. This is Sean. I would say, thinking about the full year, that's probably a little bit aggressive. But in terms of is that business capable of delivering a number like that, it has the capability of doing so.

It's fair to say, Steve, that GA will be the highest margin business in our portfolio in 2025. So that will be a fair statement.

Okay. And then just one follow-up just on the hedge, I guess, the contingency contingency you you guys guys had had put into place last quarter. What's kind of the status of the contingency? Obviously, have better visibility now, but just curious as to where that went.

Yes. So I would say we learned a lot over the last ninety days. When we were talking last time, were evaluating tariffs life. I think if you look at the guide that we just gave, I feel high level of confidence we can deliver that. Third quarter obviously is a very important quarter for us.

Like we said earlier that some of the longer cycle project milestones have moved out on us. And then we had some of the demand on capital is softer to be softer. But on the other hand, Building Automation and IA short cycle orders are better. So I think net net, we're kind of in the very similar spot that we were last quarter.

Our next question comes from Scott Davis with Melius Research. Your line is now open.

Hey, good morning, Vimal and Mike and Sean.

Guys, can we talk a little bit about Quintinium? I mean, it looks like it's still bleeding a little bit of cash for you guys. But what are the hurdles specifically? What are you guys looking for to be able to get that to an IPO ready situation?

Scott, I would say the in principle, we are committed to deconsolidate so that that that plan is not changing. And actually, as we speak, we are doing the fundraise so that we could capitalize the company between now and the IPO time. To your specific question, I think we are looking at more commercial evidence, which can prove the revenue stream for it. We had a big win in Qatar when President was visiting there. There was a big announcement that Qatar is going to invest for quantum infrastructure.

So bins like that gives the investor confidence in the full revenue stream. And the way I see time line today is '27 is, I would say, the outline at the most. Can we pull it forward by a couple of months or quarter? Yes, that possibility always remains. So we're working with that kind of time line.

And we do have a good visibility on commercial progress between now and then to execute that. We also expect Scott to unveil the plans of Continuum in the Q4 time frame. So we'll keep all our shareowners informed on some of the progress we are making and we'll share that on a more broader basis.

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