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What does ‘Dr. Doom’ think of the notion that inflation is again behind us?

August 12, 2022, 9:30 AM UTC

Good morning,

Next week marks the 40th anniversary of the start of the most remarkable bull market in modern history, which was triggered when famously bearish economist Henry Kaufman penned a memo declaring the end of the era of rising inflation and interest rates. So I thought it would be a good idea to catch up with “Dr. Doom” to see what he thought about this week’s CPI report, and the notion that inflation is again behind us and a new bull market can begin.

Answer: Not much.

“Monetary policy is still behind the curve and hasn’t caught up with the need to move forcefully and decisively to curb the inflationary momentum. The inflation rate is still way above market interest rates. The market is saying, it is almost daring, the Federal Reserve to ease up. But by not moving decisively, the Fed is increasing credit creation far beyond the growth of GDP.” 

Could that create an inflation problem as deep and as hard to contain as that in the 1970s and early 1980s?

“That is difficult to project. The more debt we pile on, and the more liberal monetary policy is in an inflationary period, the higher the risk.”

Then why are markets celebrating? Why don’t they see the risk for a 1970s-style, decade-long debacle? 

“The market doesn’t want to recognize what happens in the next decade. It is much more interested in what happens in the next two months, three months. It is much more near-term looking. And in the near term, it is betting the Fed will back off.”

I asked Dr. Kaufman, now 94, to give me a call when he was ready to repeat his Aug. 17, 1982, pronouncement of a new bull market…and to stay healthy in the meantime. He promised he would.

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Alan Murray
@alansmurray

alan.murray@fortune.com

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