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The insurance holding company, which has been around more than 160 years, provides a wide range of commercial and personal property and casualty insurance products. The company's revenues have been impacted by COVID-19, but it says those loses have been somewhat mitigated by decreases in auto and other types of claims.

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Global business is back. After limping through a worldwide financial crisis and economic slowdown, the 500 largest companies ranked by revenues shattered all sorts of performance records in 2013: They racked up combined revenues of $31.1 trillion, up 2.5% from 2012, and profits soared 27% to nearly $2 trillion. China’s 95 companies (up from 89 last year) posted $5.8 trillion in revenues. The U.S. has four fewer companies on the list than last year but remains (for now) the country leader, with 128 corporations on the list—including No. 1 Wal-Mart Stores—reporting $8.6 trillion in revenues. 

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Luxury train travel is experiencing a boom: with sold-out trips, soaring demand, and waitlists stretching into the thousands. Once a niche offering, the industry now draws affluent travelers looking for unique, slow-paced experiences. Here’s an inside look at what’s fueling this resurgence and what’s behind the eye-popping price tags – including Railbookers’ 59-day, $124,000 around-the-world itinerary. 


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Luxury Train Travel Is Booming — Here’s Why Travelers Are Paying Over $100K a Ticket

Luxury train travel is experiencing a boom: with sold-out trips, soaring demand, and waitlists stretching into the thousands. Here’s an inside look at what’s fueling this resurgence and what’s behind the eye-popping price tags. 

Luxury train travel is experiencing a boom: with sold-out trips, soaring demand, and waitlists stretching into the thousands. 

For $124,000 you could fly private or ride a luxury train around the globe. Once considered a nostalgic novelty, high-end rail travel is booming, and it speaks to a larger shift that's happening in the upper reaches of the travel market. Luxury rail is having its moment. Most of our travels are not rail aficionados either. They're just looking for that experience to say, Oh, let's try that by train. Over the last few years, demand for luxury train travel has. Skyrocketed with weightless stretching into the thousands. So as of now going into next year, we have just over 1500 people on the waitlist. But in the era of booming luxury travel, some high-end rail experiences with prices reportedly topping $100,000 a night can feel out of reach compared to other options. Here's what's fueling the growth of luxury train travel and why wealthy passengers are opting for private cabins with curated journeys around the globe. In the late 19th century, luxury trains like Europe's Orient Express defined high society travel. Kings, queens, and master spies all travel in the same opulent surroundings. Now that type of golden age experience is once again drawing wealthy travelers to the rails. So when it comes to luxury travel, the rail itself is the destination. Frank Marini is the CEO of Rail Bookers. The rail-focused tour operator works with various luxury train companies to craft custom end to end rail vacations around the world. We connect luxury rail with hotels, sightseeing, national trains all over the world to customize and personalize any trip for any guest. In the past few years, the company has seen skyrocketing demand. Last year was the best year in the company's history. This year is already the best year in the company's history. Unlike bus tours and flights that simply get you there, rail Booker says luxury train travel makes the journey itself the experience. The train sees places that you can't see by car, by boat. It's also in many cases, your dining experience, your hotel experience, even your social experience. The boom in luxury rail parallels a broader resurgence in train travel. Global passenger numbers have climbed steadily over the past 4 years. We've seen in the past year at least a 65% year over year growth in our luxury rail travel in general. Terry Minson is the president of Intelli Travel, a global host travel agency with over 100,000 members. Rail, luxury rail in particular, used to be a bit of an older, maybe demographic, and I think the demographic has even changed a lot. Seeing a lot of millennial and Gen Z is even wanting to to experience a luxury rail vacation with that bragging rights and it's the sustainability element of our too, which is really appealing to like the millennial and you know Gen Z demographics. In the US alone, Amtrak set an all-time ridership record in 2024, a 15% increase from the previous year. Rail travel prior to COVID was on a growth pattern for many years, and COVID happened, but post that it's extraordinary and it's rocketed, especially in the luxury rail segment, and part of it is how people are valuing life post-COVID. People are not waiting. In 2024, Rail Booker's luxury bookings jumped 55% year over year. The company credits this post-pandemic surge to a renewed appetite for immersive slow travel adventures. Unlike bullet trains that hit nearly 200 MPH, luxury trains intentionally travel at a slower pace. You could have anything from a Michelin style chef on the train. The accommodations are world class, world class entertainment. Luxury rail companies say their amenities are designed to match 5 star standards from private bathrooms with heated floors to personalized service from onboard butlers. So luxury really. Sometimes brings you back to a period of time whether it's getting dressed up in a tuxedo for one night. It's the piano player at the bar playing till the last person leaves at 4 in the morning. They want every aspect to be perfect. Another draw of luxury rail travel is off the beaten path experiences from journeys in the Italian countryside and rural Japan to itineraries in the Peruvian Andes, but they don't come cheap. Rail Booker's 2025 around the world rail journey costs $124,000. The 59 day trip spans more than 20 cities across 12 countries aboard seven different high-end trains. You'd see around the world by cruise. You'd see around the world by private jet, and we kind of brainstormed to say, Well, what about could you do it by rail, and then what about luxury rail? And we put it out there and the demand has been extraordinary, mostly because people didn't know you could actually do it. Throughout the four continent trek, customers can go on a safari in India, cruise the Ganges River, and receive a private tour of the Louvre Museum. As of June 2025, rail Booker said the experience had a waitlist of over 1500 travelers. These customers are definitely well traveled customers. These are not first time travelers. They're looking for unique experiences. Some of the most expensive rail offerings come from Belmont, a luxury hospitality and leisure company. We have a portfolio currently and soon to be 7 trains around the world. Probably the most famous is the Venice Simpler Orient Express. Which has been running since 1982. Belmont's Grand suits are among its most sought after options. A two night journey aboard the Royal Scotsman train starts at around €13,000 per person. When we introduced the Grand Suites, it was pre-pandemic on the Veniceson Orange Express. After our first year, we realized that they were effectively all sold out for the year. They're generally the first to sell. They're the ones that are in demand. We often have waitlists for those on particular journeys, but the luxury rail market's growth extends beyond the ultra wealthy demographics. For two nights on Canada's Rocky Mountaineer train, a standard cabin starts at about $600 US dollars. A big thing that we've seen was what I like to call little luxury. So is this whole group of people who want that little bit of luxury but not the whole luxury. So it may be that two day, one night on the Orient Express. Well, that's their anniversary. That's the bucket list, but then they may continue on to other parts of Italy. So we're seeing much more customization across the board. Still, the luxury travel market is crowded with cruise lines, private jets, and 5 star resorts all vying for a similar demographic of wealthy travelers. I think the impression of rail in particular is that you know you're riding on a rackety old train and you know it's not comfortable and it's really just a means of transportation and it's really changed a lot. I think that the challenge that rail is having is just continuously looking to change that mindset and build better brand awareness. Luxury cruises occupy a similar corner of the market. Premium brands like Regent 7Cs offer global voyages. That start at around $86,000. If you can afford and you want that luxury experience, that Belmont, that $12,000 you know, suite, um, by all means you, you can find it on rail just as much as you can find it on cruise, just as much as you can find it on land as well. And while airlines and cruise lines tend to offer budget friendly tiers to attract a broader audience, luxury rail is embracing a more exclusive approach. Some companies like Belmont are enticing wealthy travelers with pricey upgrades. Because our grand suites were so popular, we really thought that there was a need for, uh, you know, perhaps another level of accommodation. On Belmont's Venice Simp and Orient Express, a night in the observatoire suite reportedly starts at around $100,000. The more than 330 square foot suite is the train's largest accommodation spanning an entire carriage. You have your own private butler, you know, you can have your meals in that compartment or you can go along and have the meals in the restaurant. Actually, the space is yours. Belmont is also expanding its luxury train footprint. It's our new sleeping train which is called the Britannic Explorer. Offering 3 night itineraries to some spectacular scenery throughout England and Wales, I think we're at the beginning of the reboom. I look at different categories that I've seen across the years. Let's say glamping, right? You see things coming in and out, and they come in for a period of time and then people forget what happened to them. But rail travel, I think this is just the beginning.

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Anita Hill, Professor of Law, Public Policy and Women's Studies, Heller Graduate School of Policy and Management, Brandeis University
Sara Moss, Vice Chairman, The Estée Lauder Companies
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MPW Summit 2020: RBG: An Intimate Tribute

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now we want to take a moment to pay tribute to one of the most iconic, impactful and inspiring women of our time. Ruth Bader Ginsburg take a look. Mhm Yeah, yeah, that was wonderful. Welcome all I'm patty sellers Ruth Bader Ginsburg certainly had an impact on all our lives, not just the most powerful women and not just women. Let's not forget men as well. She over she overturned laws that discriminated on the basis of sex and she represented harmed male plant plant male plaintiffs as well. That is sometimes forgotten. She fought for equality period. We're fortunate to be joined by three women who knew Justice Ginsburg and have memories to share and before I introduce the three of them, I have been frozen here in the green room not even revealing to them what what's behind me, but I'll show you now. Uh huh. Mhm loosen Kapito. Executive vice president. Marketing, communications and customer experience travelers. The travelers companies, the Great Anita Hill Professor of law and public policy and women's studies at the Heller Graduate School policy and management at BRANDEIS University and Sarah Moss, vice chairman of the Estee lauder companies. Thank you all for joining us. And lisa I am going to start with you. Um tell us about meeting Justice Ginsburg and your your memory of her. Well I have to say it's quite a memory because it was in the middle of President Clinton's um term at the White House and he had the opportunity to nominate his first Supreme Court justice. And it was actually Hillary who had known of her from the women's Lawyers association and um President Clinton had narrowed the list down from 40 candidates five which um Ruth Bader Ginsburg was one and so she was coming for her interview at the White House. It was a sunday, nobody was around except for those of us staffers who were slaving away seven days a week. And and the greatest thing ever was that President Clinton was, was up in the residents watching a football games in jeans and a sweatshirt and he changed into a suit with a coat and tie. And Justice Ginsburg was completely casually dressed and it was just such a great moment because you know, the juxtaposition of of the President and formal attire and Justice Ginsburg more casual was was great. And and and he he had talked about it at the time that it was a conversation of the lifetime and and they talked about the constitution, the law, how it affected people. He really cared about that and he loved that she spoke, you know, in such a straightforward way on the level he used to say, and um how disarmingly straightforward um she was. So that's, that's my story from jeans to a suit to meet the form, the future Supreme Court justice on President Clinton's part. Before I turn to you Anita, I'd like to let all of you who are watching know that any of you who have have your own memories or photos of Justice Ginsburg. If you'd like to share with us, please tweet them out and be sure to use the fortune mp w hashtag or you can email them to most powerful women at fortune dot com and we'll tweet them out for you. If you could describe your photo briefly, memory briefly and make sure you give us your name and title and organization. So go ahead. See if let's see if we can get some some memories from all of you, Anita tell us about your relationship with Justice Ginsburg. Well it was, it was not a close relationship but it was really special to me. Um She attended a conference that I co hosted with my colleague and friend Emma Core, Coleman Jordan at Georgetown Law School where her husband marty taught. It was the first year anniversary after the 1991 hearing and she had not been appointed. But Emma let me know that this was Ruth Bader Ginsburg and she was really on the lift to be appointed to the Supreme Court. Uh We did the the conference she came, she sat in the front row, it was a conference of scholars from the legal profession really across the academy and she sat there, she never asked a question but you know, I see her occasionally nodding and so I was you know, just thrilled that this woman who had heard about and now knew that she was maybe on the Supreme Court was in agreement with so much that was being said a year or so later, Emma and I published the collection of essays from that conference, and this is a personal part of it for me, um we sent a copy of the book to ruth Ginsburg, and my understanding is that she took it with her to the court And put it on her bookshelf, prominently displayed it on her bookshelf in in the Supreme Court. And of course, for me, that was a feeling that you know, she had taken a little part of me to the Supreme Court, which was basically the only way I was going to get there uh in the 1990s, um and and it really wasn't affirmation that I needed, not that I wanted her to pick size, but I wanted someone to acknowledge that I had a side and that it was worth hearing. Um and that sort of brings me to the professional part of my, my quote unquote relationship with her. You know, one of the things that I've just remark about in terms of her jurisprudence was it was it was grounded in equal protection law that came out of race. Um She was at the conference on Race and Gender and power. She understood that the two were linked together. She understood intersectionality perhaps before it was really a popular word. And so for me to have someone on the court who understood both race and gender and the importance of equality, um for each category was like having someone on my side in the court that I could count on. And so I'm forever endeavour indebted to for both, personally and professionally. Thank you. That is a beautiful tribute in itself. Thank you Anita. Um Sarah tell us about, I think you go way back uh relationship with Justice Ginsburg. Tell us how it started and how it how it developed. Oh, I'd be delighted. Um well it started in 1975 was the first time I met her and I have to say that she inspired me to become a lawyer. And and her work on gender equality has really fueled my passion throughout my career. Um I became involved in the women's movement uh which evolved from the civil rights movement in the late 60s, early 70s. And I was a young teacher then. Um but I knew I needed to have more impact. I wanted to have more impact and it seemed clear to me that the law was the way to do it. Um And I heard about a young professor at Rutgers Law School, Ruth Ginsburg who was starting to bring cases as you said patty um on behalf of women and men for gender equality. And I knew about her. She seemed wonderful. I had not I had not met her at the time but I went to law school. Um I wrote a law review article on the Equal rights Amendment. Some people may remember that I clerked for Constance baker motley, the first black woman on the federal court. But my real dream was to work with Ruth Ginsburg. Who it then was at that time when I graduated was at the A. C. L. U. Women's rights Project. So I wrote to her And um I told her I would love to work with her for her and she invited me to come and meet her. This was 1975. I had never met her before, I'm not even sure I have seen a picture I knew about her work but as we all know, she was small, she was quiet, she had a calm about her that was really a serial in many ways. She was so determined, so strategic. Uh and she made it clear that bit by bit and case by case she was going to bring equal protection two women and and give women rights. Frankly, I didn't even know that we didn't have at the time, but because she she didn't do the high profile cases, she did a case by case. So I was blown away by her and so inspired and frankly when I left that meeting I knew she was going to be successful. I mean in my heart I believed she was going to be successful. I didn't get a job with her, they didn't have resources. Um but we stayed in touch and saw each other over the years and she was always gracious and warm and she was particularly happy when I came to Estee Lauder 17 years ago. She talked about her feelings about Estee lauder herself, that she was a pioneer, a pioneering woman, that she was, you know, our firms are companies, culture of strong women and women's leadership and our mission of gender equality. So she was just, I felt her support, I felt her or love if you will, um, throughout the years and she really was my north star, My workout news. I still can't do 20 push ups by the way, but I'm working on it. And uh, she was, she's been my inspiration my whole career. And Sarah, did you stay in touch with her over the decades? I did. I can't, it was not a close relationship for sure. Um, but I stayed in touch with her and we saw each other and a number of, uh, a number of occasions. And as I said, she was always warm and welcoming and remembered. Um, and I felt I felt close to her. She made me feel that way. And, and um, my admiration for her just only grew, only grew. My sons went to school with her granddaughter and we had that relationship in common. She was, she was a person. You know, she was somebody who was just a wonderful person. And you felt that, I know lisa when you, when you were with her, you just, you just felt it for sure you want to, if you want to live a long life and that's, I've given this book to quite a few people. Is this the workout that you do? Sarah the work that I try to do? Yeah, yeah. Uh, Anita has, I mean, you've had such a, you know, I love to say that real power is what you do outside of your profession of of your sort of designated platform. And you certainly have personified that we just have about a minute left. But um, is there any any way beyond what you've explained? Uh that ruth Bader Ginsburg inspired you to think about your power more broadly than you than you might have. Well, the idea that she was the queen of defense, uh, that you don't have to always be in the winning column to be powerful. That you can actually make change when the decisions go in the other direction. And I I always cite the case, the lilly ledbetter case, the equal pay case where she basically wrote a dissent, read it from the bench and instructed Congress what they needed to do to fix the law that should never have needed to been fixed. He also said, but this is what Congress needs to do. So I would just like to leave, uh, leave this session with with us, remembering that this was an extraordinarily shy girl from Brooklyn, the daughter of a Russian, jewish, jewish immigrant and a mother who died when ruth was young. She came of age during the holocaust. And she said she um she said during her confirmation hearing that she she described her Descents as appealing to the intelligence of a future day who appealed to the intelligence of a future day. So hopefully our future days, we'll have the memory the voice of Ruth Bader Ginsburg in our, in our collective ears, we will have more intelligent days ahead. This is certainly a fitting way to wrap up this year's fortune. Most powerful women's summit leadership is a journey. None of us, none of us are born leaders. We all learn from each other. We constantly learn, we adapt and that's the way we make it to greatness. We've adapted, We've learned over these last three days. They've been very motivating. We thank you all for being part of it and I want to bring in the most powerful women's summit co chairs. Um and uh thank you my colleagues, my co chairs for making these last three days. Really wonderful. Thank you for having. This has been such an unprecedented here. I think you're feeling the impact of the separated from each other. It's right now, that's why in so many ways the summit was even more vital. We all need ways to stay connected with each other and get the information, inspiration and joy. We need to keep doing the work ahead. Yeah. We also want to once again thank our corporate partners for helping bring us all together and we'd like to give a shout out to the rest of the fortune. M. T. W. T, all of whom have contributed so much to the summit. One of the silver linings of the pandemic is that it has brought the MBW community together more often, albeit virtually. Please keep an eye on your email for more gatherings in the weeks and months ahead. And remember the 2020 most powerful women list comes out in November. Please watch for that too. Getting together is so important. Right now we'll do it again soon, so long.

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