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Good morning and welcome to Aramark's fourth quarter and Full Year Fiscal 2025 earnings results conference call. My name is Kevin, and I'll be your operator for today's call. At this time, I'd like to inform you that this conference is being recorded for rebroadcast and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will open the conference call for questions at the conclusion of the company's remarks. I will now turn the call over to Felise Kissell, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations and Corporate Development. Ms. Kissell, please proceed.

Thank you, and welcome to Aramark's earnings conference call and webcast. This morning, we will be hearing from our CEO, John Zillmer, as well as CFO, Jim Tarangelo. As always, there are accompanying slides for this call that can be viewed through the webcast and are also available on the IR website for easy access. Our notice regarding forward-looking statements is included in our press release. During this call, we will be making comments that are forward-looking. Actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied as a result of various risks, uncertainties, and important factors, including those discussed in the risk factors, MDNA, and other sections of our annual report on Form 10-K and SEC filings. We will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of these items to U.S. GAAP can be found in our press release and IR website.

With that, I will now turn the call over to John.

Thanks, Felise, and thanks to all of you for joining us. On today's call, Jim and I will review our fourth quarter and full year results, including the strategic, financial, and operational milestones accomplished in fiscal 2025. We've built upon our historically strong, consistent performance and advanced a number of initiatives that position us well for the years ahead, which will be discussed in more detail. First and foremost, we take delivering on our commitments very seriously, and it's important to understand that as we onboard an unprecedented level of new business, we took the appropriate time to work closely with certain large clients in preparing for a seamless transition to Aramark becoming their new hospitality partner. In some cases, this led to a shift in the timing of new account openings, which impacted revenue in the fourth quarter.

With many of these sites now up and running, we are well positioned for strong revenue performance in the quarters ahead. We are more resolved than ever to meet and even exceed the high yet very attainable bar we set for ourselves. This past year has represented many consequential firsts for the company, all of which contribute to the strong growth trajectory for the businesses, including annualized gross new wins of $1.6 billion, which is 12% higher than fiscal 2024 and reflects the largest contract awarded in FSS U.S. history and the second largest globally. An industry-leading client retention rate of 96.3%, with many lines of business and countries in the portfolio above this retention level, all combined resulting in net new of 5.6%.

Over $1 billion of new purchasing spend added for a second consecutive year in our supply chain GPO network, and lastly, achieving a leverage ratio of 3.25 times, a number we haven't seen since prior to when Aramark went private in 2007. Our new business pipeline across the organization is significant, including first-time outsourcing opportunities, and we are already off to another strong start at this early stage of the fiscal year. This includes adding Blue Origin, Easton Area School District in Pennsylvania, the Welsh Rugby Union, as well as expanding our services for Airbus. I have great confidence in the company's continued ability to achieve net new of 4-5% of prior year revenue, with retention levels exceeding 95% in fiscal 2026 and beyond.

When we overdeliver on this metric, we reward our teams appropriately, as was the case, particularly in the fourth quarter, reflected in additional incentive-based compensation from net new business, an objective representing 40% of the company's incentive plan for leaders across the organization. Moving to our results in the quarter, Aramark's organic revenue increased 14%, largely from net new business and base business growth. Excluding the 53rd week, organic revenue was toward the higher end of our long-term growth model. FSS U.S. grew organic revenue 14% in the fourth quarter. Again, excluding the 53rd week, organic revenue was up mid-single digits, led by workplace experience and refreshments continuing its pace of record net new business. Collegiate hospitality with strong retention rates, meal plan optimization success, and benefiting from higher student enrollments, particularly from our portfolio of academic institutions in the popular South and Southeast.

Healthcare reporting its best performance in over two years. Our healthcare plus business was recently named number one in best places to work by Modern Healthcare for our commitment to a people-first culture and operational excellence across the industry. While we are encouraged with our roster of high-performing teams, as the MLB playoffs approached, the outcome was not what we anticipated, with the majority of our teams ultimately falling out of playoff contention. We have now entered the NFL, NBA, and NHL seasons where fan attendance has been strong to date. Leveraging our expertise in professional sports, Aramark's collegiate sports business is experiencing double-digit revenue growth, with per capita rates up 14% year over year, driven by increased concession spending and expanded premium services.

I also want to commend our employees in the destinations business who worked closely with the National Park Service to assist during and following the devastating Dragon Bravo fire in the Grand Canyon's north rim. We had been operating the historic Grand Canyon Lodge, which was severely damaged. While it's still early, we are supporting the recovery and rebuilding efforts in the region and are optimistic about what's ahead for the visitor experience at the north rim. We continue to expand our enterprise-wide capabilities and collaboration, which resulted in our new multi-year agreement with the University of Pennsylvania Health System, the largest contract win ever in the U.S. from one of the most prestigious medical systems in the world. We are proud to put our understanding of sophisticated and complex healthcare systems to work in new settings.

We will be providing patients and retail food, environmental services, and patient transportation, alongside an integrated call center to support these operations at sites across a nearly 4,000-bed, seven-hospital system. Among our many technologies offered at Penn Medicine will be an AI-driven patient menu platform that configures patient meals based on diagnosis and dietary requirements, in addition to proven robotic applications for both environmental services and meal preparation. Our proprietary AWIX platform will be used to map staffing and other needs, as well as our QuickEats micro-markets and mobile ordering platforms. We look forward to launching operations early in calendar 2026 and are working closely with Penn Medicine to identify other opportunities to further grow the partnership. Additional clients added to the U.S. portfolio in the fourth quarter included Chicago's DePaul University and Collegiate Hospitality, where we'll begin operating next semester.

Discover, following the acquisition by Capital One, also a client, as well as expanding our hospitality services into top-tier law firms within workplace experience. Now to international. Once again, international delivered consistent double-digit organic revenue growth, increasing 14% in the fourth quarter, with approximately 3% growth coming from the 53rd week, led by substantial new business, high retention, and strong base business growth. All geographic regions contributed to this performance, with particular strength in the U.K., Canada, Ireland, Spain, and Latin America. Toward the end of the quarter, international experienced its highest revenue ever for a single one-day event when the NFL's Pittsburgh Steelers played the Minnesota Vikings at Croke Park Stadium in Dublin, Ireland, all Aramark clients. We also just had great success at Olympic Stadium in Berlin, Germany, with another NFL matchup as the league's fan base continues to quickly grow in Europe.

International was awarded new clients in the fourth quarter across sectors and geographies. This included expanding our growing presence in the UEFA Champions League and Bundesliga with the addition of Bayer Leverkusen Football Club in Germany, the healthcare network of Hospital Italiano in Argentina, energy exploration and developer ENAP in Chile, and mining leader IAM Gold in Canada. Looking forward, we expect international to maintain its strong business momentum, delivering on a growth agenda focused on culture, team, capabilities, and process. Turning to global supply chain, Avendra International added another $1 billion of new purchasing spend in its GPO network this past fiscal year, primarily from travel and leisure, healthcare, senior living, and education. The supply chain team is also leveraging enhanced technology capabilities to optimize client compliance and contract productivity. We're making the appropriate investments to build upon our strong analytics and client mobile chatbot platforms.

These powerful tools put the answers our frontline clients need in the palm of their hand and continue to deliver back-end efficiencies in our supply chain operations. We are now deploying these solutions globally. We are expanding our international footprint in supply chain, and the Quantum acquisition has fit well into the portfolio, contributing accretive growth to both Europe and Latin America. Inflation levels have been as expected, and we currently estimate inflation around the 3% range heading into the new fiscal year as we continue to effectively manage the broader macro environment. Our teams are closely monitoring any changes in the marketplace and will leverage our extensive capabilities to support our clients.

Before turning the call over to Jim, I want to reiterate that our teams across the company are hard at work and focused on accelerating performance, and we are already seeing success entering the new fiscal year in leveraging enterprise-wide capabilities, starting operations for a record number of new clients, maintaining our client retention momentum, optimizing global supply chain strategies, and lastly, pursuing substantial growth opportunities. Jim?

Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. We reported another year of commendable operational performance on both the top and bottom line, a testament to the capabilities of our business model. We are experiencing unprecedented levels of success in key leading indicators of performance, annualized gross new wins, and client retention, which provide us the momentum to deliver our expected growth in fiscal 2026 and even beyond.

I want to now provide some insights into our fiscal 2025 financial performance before reviewing our expectations for the upcoming fiscal year. As John reviewed, fourth quarter organic revenue was up 14%. The growth was driven by new business, high retention levels, increased base business, and the benefit of the 53rd week, which contributed approximately 7%, more than offsetting a shift in the timing of new account openings. For the full fiscal year, we reported revenue on a GAAP basis of $18.5 billion, up 6% compared to the prior year, with approximately 1% of foreign currency impact. Organic revenue grew 7% versus the prior year, again from net new business, base business, and 2% from the 53rd week. You know, this also reflects the company's portfolio exits in facilities in the prior year.

Adjusted operating income for the quarter was $289 million and grew 6% on a constant currency basis, led by higher revenue levels, leveraging technology capabilities, particularly in supply chain, and above-unit cost discipline. The increase more than offset higher incentive-based compensation of $25 million recorded in the quarter associated with achieving record net new business. As a reminder, our growth-oriented model is structured with 40% of our incentive-based compensation tied to an annualized net new business metric. Throughout the fiscal year, we accrued this compensation based on expected performance. The Penn Medicine win in the fourth quarter, in particular, resulted in a maximum payout under the incentive plan for this metric. Additionally, we did have higher prescription claims in the quarter, along with some new business startup costs in higher ed and collegiate sports, areas of attractive growth for the company.

Excluding these expense items in the quarter, AOI margin would have been higher by 70 basis points. The company has taken decisive actions to decrease future medical expenses related to elective lifestyle prescriptions, specifically GLP-1 coverage. For fiscal 2025, AOI was $981 million, up 12% on a constant currency basis, which represented AOI margin expansion of nearly 25 basis points. This growth was led by our operating levers and the estimated contribution from the 53rd week of approximately 2%, which more than offset the additional incentive-based compensation I just mentioned, affecting AOI growth by 3% or 20 basis points. Turning to the business segments, the U.S. reported AOI growth of 2% during the quarter. Growth was due to higher revenue levels, enhanced technology capabilities, and effective cost management.

AOI growth in the quarter more than offset the higher expenses associated with incentive-based compensation, medical, and some new business startup costs already mentioned. We also took the opportunity to make some strategic reinvestments within destinations, which included property development, digital marketing optimization, and other enhancements to drive the guest experience. To a lesser extent, we did feel some effect from our MLB teams falling out of playoff contention. For the full year, U.S. AOI was up 9%. We continue to benefit from and invest in advanced technologies that will further drive our financial performance. These capabilities are strengthening our operational efficiencies and enabling us to scale best-in-class digital experiences. The international segment experienced AOI growth of 31% during the fourth quarter and 21% for the full year, both on a constant currency basis. AOI margin for the year improved by more than 40 basis points.

AOI growth and margin expansion was led by higher revenue, effective cost management, and supply chain efficiencies. For the fourth quarter, adjusted EPS was $0.57, up 6% on a constant currency basis. For the full year, adjusted EPS was $1.82, an increase of almost 20% on a constant currency basis. The additional incentive-based compensation impacted adjusted EPS by $0.07 in both the fourth quarter and full year. On a GAAP basis, Aramark reported consolidated operating income of $218 million and EPS of $0.33 in the fourth quarter. For fiscal 2025, operating income was $792 million and EPS was $1.22. This included severance charges from restructuring initiatives to further optimize operations, as well as a non-cash asset write-down in the fourth quarter associated with a minority interest investment made in a previous fiscal year.

Moving to cash flow, consistent with our normal seasonality of the business, the fourth quarter generated a significant cash inflow, which contributed to our strong cash flow for the full year. Net cash provided by operating activities in fiscal 2025 was $921 million, and free cash flow was $454 million. Our free cash flow grew by more than 40% compared to the prior year period from higher cash from operations and favorable working capital, particularly from improved collections. Our cash flow performance and higher earnings resulted in our consolidated leverage ratio improving to 3.25 times at the end of September, down from 3.4 times a year ago, and represent the company's lowest level in nearly 20 years. We closed the fiscal year with more than $2.4 billion of cash availability.

This provides us with the continued flexibility to execute on our capital allocation priorities, which effectively optimizes investing in the business, reducing leverage below three times, and increasing the quarterly dividend, which was just increased by 14%, while repurchasing stock utilizing excess cash generation. I'll now wrap up with our outlook for fiscal 2026. Based on our current expectations, we anticipate the following full-year performance: organic revenue of $19.45 billion-$19.85 billion, representing growth of 7%-9%. For easier comparison purposes, the fiscal 2025 revenue is on a 52-week basis. AOI of $1.1 billion-$1.15 billion, an increase of 12%-17%. Adjusted EPS in the range of $2.18-$2.28, reflecting growth of 20%-25%, and a leverage ratio below three times.

One point to keep in mind on the quarterly cadence for fiscal 2026, there is a slight calendar shift from the 53rd week in fiscal 2025, which has no effect on the full-year fiscal 2026 numbers, with more detail in the analyst modeling section of our earnings slides. In summary, we remain resolved in driving our strategies to capitalize on the significant growth opportunities for the business, centered on strong revenue growth and through new business wins, high client retention rates, and base business growth. At the same time, we expect to continue accelerating our profitability from our multiple operating levers, including differentiated supply chain capabilities and disciplined cost management, enhancing our efficiencies and scale across the business. With a resilient business model and a clear path forward, we are well positioned to deliver long-term value for our shareholders.

We believe the future of the company is extremely bright, and we're energized about the opportunities ahead. Thank you for your time this morning, John.

Thank you, Jim. With Fiscal 2026 now underway, we look ahead with great confidence. Our efforts are centered on building a high-performing, sustainable business focused on providing exceptional hospitality services to our clients. I want to reiterate that we are committed to creating significant value for our shareholders and are taking the appropriate actions to realize this unwavering objective. An operator will now open the call for questions.

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have a question, please press star, then 11 on your touch-tone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, you may need to pick up the handset first before pressing the numbers.

In order to accommodate participants in the question queue, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. To remove yourself from the queue, please press star, one, one. We'll pause for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Ian Defina with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

Hi, Ziff. Thank you very much. Very impressive on the new win side. I mean, I guess this kind of just speaks to the culture of the company. Retention's going up. I guess this is just seemingly a culmination of a very kind of client-focused culture here. Glad you're taking the time to spend time with the clients to do so. The question would be, when we're thinking about these new account openings, can you maybe just delve a little bit more into the shift in timing? Was this in particular sectors or areas?

Do you think it will continue? Any economic-related factors that you did not mention or any kind of other color there would be helpful. Thanks.

Sorry. You're bad. Thank you. Yeah. First of all, it was the calendar shift or the opening shift, if you will, really occurred in multiple businesses. Corrections, workplace experience, and healthcare all had kind of late-breaking opportunities for openings, which were deferred into fiscal 2026. Without going into specifics, the impact was significant in the quarter, but it was appropriate from a timing perspective to make sure that we could open effectively. Frankly, it was also appropriate for the timing of the client. It was really ultimately their decision with respect to the opening timing. Yeah, it was significant. It is not typical. Generally, when we sell accounts, we tend to open them in the year that we sell them.

This was a result of a number of different opportunities, all of which were terrific for the company. We are very excited about the overall results. As you know, we sold nearly $1 billion of net new business this year, and on a gross basis, $1.6 billion. Just a fantastic performance by the entire team delivering on the new business objectives. With a retention rate exceeding 96.3%, it just ends up being a great trajectory for 2026.

Right. Since you mentioned new business, congratulations on this Penn deal. This would bring me into my next question. Maybe you could talk about 2026 cadence here. Maybe talk about that UPenn contract, how that kind of ramps throughout the year. Do you have any other deals baked into the guidance, or how are you thinking about new deals?

Just as you talk about cadence, maybe day count, playoff lapping, which might mean maybe a better back half of the year. Any other color you can kind of give? Thanks. Sure. With respect to Penn specifically, Penn will begin operating at Penn in February. That will be staged over the course of several months as we open up the operations in the individual locations over multiple cities and multiple institutions. It is a very exciting process. As you know, much of it was self-operated. We are converting self-op. We are converting some competitors' operations as well. It is a very complex opening. Taking the time to do it effectively, I feel absolutely committed to delivering on the performance for Penn and, frankly, to taking the time to do it right for Aramark as well.

In typical fashion, we have significant new business expectations for next year as well, but really do not have any cadence, if you will, on those opportunities. Our pipeline is very robust and very strong. We have had very strong early successes, as I mentioned, the Welsh Rugby Union and others, DePaul University opening as well. The cadence, I think, is going to be more normal next year than it happened this year. All in all, very strong results, and we are very pleased.

Great. Thank you very much. Appreciate that.

Our next question comes from Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley.Your line is open.

Thanks so much. I wanted to start with a question on margins. Just wanted to understand with the new wins that you got this year.

I know there's this cost dynamic where sometimes there's a ramp in higher costs when you ramp up on those contracts. I just wanted to understand the cost trajectory there. If you could talk about any AI initiatives or other efficiency initiatives that should contribute to 2026 margins. Yeah.

Thanks for the question. We've had really good progress right on margins. We went from 4.6% to 5.1% to 5.3% this year. If you look at the midpoint of the guidance, I think for next year it'd be about 5.7%. Sort of consistent 30-40 basis points of margin appreciation has been generated.

Yeah, we do have some, obviously, with the large wins coming in next year that will be associated with maybe some incremental startup costs, but I think we're able to offset that with the continued productivity we're seeing in our supply chain, and in particular, leveraging AI in supply chain and across other functional areas, and then continuing to scale our overhead. We have very good visibility with respect to our corporate costs and SG&A. We're able to take on this business, really not adding much in the way of new above-unit overhead costs. I think we're fit for purpose and able to take this on and still continue to leverage the operating levers that have been working well for us over the past couple of years.

Toni, I would just ask, normalized opening costs are baked into our projection and into the guidance, so we do not anticipate opening costs impacting our guidance negatively next year. If we continue to see accelerating performance in terms of net new, that ramp does occur. As Jim said, we are basically able to offset those cost increases through efficiency, through productivity, through SG&A leverage, and through supply chain dynamics. We are very comfortable with the continued margin accretion as we continue to grow the company.

Great. You mentioned the double-digit growth in collegiate sports, which is great. I just wanted to ask about the pipeline there and particularly how the progress is going with converting some of the education contracts, either sports to education as well or education to sports, etc. That would be great. Thank you.

Sure. You bet. We have taken the opportunity.

We do engage both the collegiate hospitality and the sports and entertainment teams collectively when we pursue those opportunities. As you'll remember, we added Arizona State's system this year. As we grew the relationship there, we added the sports that's being run by our sports and entertainment team in Oklahoma that's being run by our sports and entertainment team. We are pursuing several large university athletic programs right now. They're currently underway. We have engaged the SNE team on those opportunities. We run them based on what we think the needs of the business are, particularly if there's alcohol involved. Our SNE team has extraordinary capabilities with respect to the delivery and the appropriate management of alcohol systems in university environments. We engage both sides of the organization to do it.

We are seeing significant opportunities for growth there in major institutions that are currently self-operated and looking for support and help, and also some competitors who are currently out for bid as well. It is a great marketplace, and we intend to. We are the number one company in that space, and we continue to be focused aggressively on pursuing growing it.

Our next question comes from Leo Carrington with Citi. Your line is open.

Good morning. Thank you. If I could ask a follow-up on that Penn Medicine deal, what is the implication in terms of the potential for further hospital groups to follow suit and consolidate and outsource their catering? What can you tell us about the rest of that subsector, if you like? And then secondly, on the BNI segment, the organic growth, even excluding the 53rd week, was quite a sharp acceleration.

My understanding is this is the most consolidated segment. Can you elaborate on what is driving your market share growth here in terms of your capability? Thank you.

Sure. I think both great questions. First of all, on the healthcare systems, yeah, there are significant new opportunities that we're pursuing in healthcare for self-op conversion, large systems adopting strategies like Penn did to go ahead and find ways to become more effective and to reduce their overall cost of operation. We're able to deliver very significant benefits to the institution as a result of both our supply chain capability as well as our systems that we're bringing to bear across their enterprise. The solutions that we offered to Penn are very, very transferable to other institutions, and we think the opportunity there is very large.

In this particular case, Penn is such a wonderful institution and has such a stellar reputation that we do believe other systems will follow their lead in terms of consolidation and systemization. We are already pursuing new opportunities in that regard. With respect to BNI and Workplace Experience Group, our team has just done a fantastic job of growing that business, pursuing competitive opportunities, and, as you noted, continue to grow share across the organization. I think it is a function of both our capabilities, our different brand offerings, if you will, under the Workplace Experience umbrella, and frankly, just overall performance. Our team is delivering at a very high level. Our customers recognize that. Our potential new clients recognize that. We have been able to grow that share in a number of niches where we have not historically competed. We are very excited.

It has great leadership, and we're very confident in its future growth opportunities as well.

Yeah. And John, I would just add that it also includes our refreshment services, coffee service, and micro markets, which is also growing very rapidly, very consistently, both Workplace Experience, refreshment services, high levels of retention, high levels of net new as a result of the branding and success they've had with clients that John just mentioned. We're seeing it from really all parts of that organization.

Thank you, John. Thank you, Jim. Our next question comes from Andrew Steinerman with JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Hi there, Andrew. When you talk about base business growth, I'm pretty sure you're talking about both price increases and other base business growth like cross-selling.

With that in mind, could you just go through the organic revenue drivers between net new, price increases, and other base growth, both in the fiscal 2026 guide as well as 2025 just completed? Yeah. I'll take that. In terms of the components of growth for fiscal 2025, the base business growth would consist of volume and price. Pricing generally has been at about 3%. Base business is sort of 3.5% in 2025. Net new contribution added to the in-year contribution, about 1.5%, and then the 53rd week added about 2%. That gets you to the 7% for fiscal 2025. In terms of the outlook for 2026, we'd expect to get about 3-4% base business growth, roughly 3% or so coming from price.

Given the strong levels of retention and record on new, we're being in the 4-5% range on net new contribution in fiscal 2026. This is on a 52-week comparison to the prior year. That gets you to the guide of 7-9%.

Our next question comes from Jaafar Mestari with BNP Paribas. Your line is open.

Hi. Good morning. I had just a follow-up on this net new business contribution in 2026 in the year. Given where you ended at the end of 2025 and given some of your KPIs in terms of new signings and retention being very much forward-looking, why is the outlook for 2026 not a bit stronger in terms of the contribution in that year? The 5.6% wasn't reflected in 2025 because of the timing of some of those signings and the ramp-up.

Should we not expect it to be reflected in 2026 fully?

Yeah. So there's a couple. So Penn Medicine is, remember, it's an annualized number. And Penn Medicine, for example, the largest one, is starting early in the year and will ramp up throughout the course of fiscal 2026. And then the Oakland A's is another large one that will have more of an impact into the following fiscal year. That's why there's always a bit of timing between the annualized and in-year realization of those revenue.

Thank you. That's clear. And then one follow-up on the margins. You're right, obviously, that the guidance for 2026 will mean that the margin improvement year-over-year will be between 30 basis points and 40 basis points. But that's using as a starting point 2025 with some of the items you've flagged, including the exceptional sales team compensation in Q4.

Similar question here. If we do not expect those to reoccur, if they reoccur, it will be fantastic because, I mean, you have signed a lot. If we do not expect those to reoccur, should not the margin in 2026 normalize a touch for those and then grow 30 to 40 basis points on a normalized basis?

If you look at the range of outcomes, I think if you sort of the low end and high end of the range, right, sort of 5.6-5.8, and as I mentioned, 5.7 in the middle. The range of outcomes is wider. Correct. Those items, if they repeat, it is a good problem to have.

If you normalize fiscal 2025 and you are in the 5.4-5.5 neighborhood, the other factor is, given the large ramp-up of these accounts, there will be some additional startup costs in 2026 that is baked into the guidance. You can think about that as maybe 10 basis points as part of that.

It is baked in, Brendan. Just last point, very quickly, you have updated us on healthcare opportunities where you are saying you are still working on some material opportunities. Another area where you have been talking about some potential big wins to come with corrections and the update here is the decision-making process in that segment, just very slow. Yeah. We actually had some significant corrections, new wins, some of which did actually get recorded as wins in the net new and are ramping up and are ramping up now.

We are continuing to pursue additional state systems, and it continues to be one of our largest opportunities for self-op conversion. We think the pace of that business's growth will continue, both on the correctional feeding side as well as the commissary side of the business as well. Still very significant total addressable market available to us to pursue and very confident in that team and its approach to the business and its ability to generate top-line growth. Super.

Our next question comes from Neil Tyler with Wolfe Research, Redburn Atlantic. Your line is open.

Yeah. Good afternoon. Thank you. Morning. Just interested in the restructuring measures that you've initiated in the international business.

Can you talk a little bit about the thought process and maybe operational metrics that prompted you to initiate restructuring in a business that seems to be growing very healthily? Then secondly, perhaps when you refer to the postponement or sort of slightly delayed startup of some of the operations, can you talk a little bit or give us a little bit of sort of context or description around what sort of factors need to be considered when you decide to slow down the startup of operations in a contract? Maybe give us some anecdotal evidence or anecdotal sort of description of why that might be the case. Thank you.

Yeah. It's really more client-driven than it is Aramark-driven. Clients have time frames that they have that they're working under. In particular, they're dealing with multiple constituents.

One of those opportunities, for example, using Penn as an example of an account that we anticipated potentially opening earlier, they had to work through a number of different decision processes. They needed to inform their employees. They needed to work through union relationships. Really, we tend to respond to our clients' needs and our customers' needs more than ours with respect to timing. That was also very significantly evident in a couple of those correctional opportunities where decisions were deferred by states. In a couple of opportunities in the Workplace Experience Group where we had a large client we were already serving that was making a decision to displace a competitor that was also a customer of theirs. As I said, more often than not, these deferrals tend to be related to customer timing, not Aramark timing.

We just had a number of them occur that affected our fourth quarter of this year.

Yes. On the restructuring in the international, again, the backdrop here, the international group has had a long track record of success, multiple quarters, multiple years of double-digit growth. This is a business we're happy to invest where we need to to make sure we're well-positioned to achieve our financial targets and streamline the business a little bit. It is geared toward streamlining some SG&A and optimizing some SG&A. As you know, it is fairly expensive to do that in certain parts of Europe. That was a piece of it. Optimizing a little bit in mining in South America to position us for the coming year.

There was a final piece that was related to some real estate consolidation as well as some of the bolt-on deals that we did presented an opportunity to bring those together more efficiently.

Got it. Thank you. Just going back to the first question, just so I have it clear in my mind, when we think about the slight growth shortfall relative to the sort of lower end of your guidance that occurred in the fourth quarter, is it fair to characterize the majority of that as being down to contract timing as opposed to the comp effects of things like the MLB playoffs and the like? Yeah. I think that was certainly the most significant part of it. The MLB impact was secondary. The closure of the Grand Canyon was certainly secondary to that. There are a couple of items.

Rather than giving you a laundry list of every reason, the one that I would really focus on is that opening deferral mechanism and timing of that. The other two impact items were also part of that fourth quarter. Very clear. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Jasper Bibb with Truist Securities. Your line is open.

Morning, everyone. Wanted to ask if you could give us a bit more detail on the organic run rate into fiscal 2026, maybe using what organic growth looked like in October or September, excluding the 53rd week. Thank you.

Yeah. Thanks, Jasper. Yeah. The cadence in 2026, just a couple of points here. The 53rd week will have an impact on the cadence, as I mentioned in my comments, on 2026.

Essentially, we have a strong operating week in higher ed and K-12 in particular that sort of gets absorbed into fiscal 2025 with that extra week. With that, you could think about losing a few days in Q1 that will come back in Q2. First half growth will be kind of consistent with our run rate. I think the first quarter, think of it as sort of minus 3-3.5% versus the run rate that will be captured back in the second quarter. That's the cadence I wanted to note. We're exiting with good speed, good run rate here as we exit here in Q4 and good momentum as we expect it in October and the outlook for Q1.

It is running according to track, but I just did want to note there is some timing due to the 53rd week that will have no impact on the full year, just quarterly.

Thank you. Maybe give us a bit more detail on the quarterly cadence of margin. I imagine with contract ramps, you might be a little lower in the first half than is easily normal and stronger in the back half. Is that a fair interpretation or any other detail you could give us on what that will look like?

Yeah. I think that is fair. Again, the larger driver on the margins will be the same thing. It is a drop through on the revenue in Q1 versus Q2. The first half will look normal, but given less revenue in Q1, there will be a margin impact on Q1 as well.

It will even out for the full first half. Thank you. Thanks.

Our next question comes from Andrew Wittmann with Baird. Your line is open.

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. I think the last question is actually a really important question. I understand that you commented on percentages here, Jim, for the revenue first quarter down 3%-3.5%. It sounded like bigger impact to margins just because you do not get the fixed cost leverage. Did you want to be even more precise on that one? I think we can all do math, but did you want to give revenue and EBIT kind of numbers for one Q? I just feel like it is a big enough change.

I think just given kind of the last couple of quarters how numbers have been kind of moving around a lot, it might be even better to give actual numbers for Q1. I know that's a big ask, but I just think it's important here. Yeah. Again, I think what I was just saying there, if you think about the first half, first, second half, and if you're sort of, again, adjusting for the 53rd week, and I'll just give a sort of ballpark. If you're sort of running at sort of 7%-8% in the first half, a little bit higher in the second half, right? And I mentioned about a 3% impact in Q1. You could think of that coming off of the 7%-8%, roughly.

That will be captured back in Q2 just to give you a little bit of sense. I do not want to be too specific, but that gives you a sense of some of the movements. Okay. John, maybe have you comment a little bit more on the pipeline. Obviously, it has been robust. Can you give a little bit more there, kind of what you are seeing, how the size of the pipeline compares today versus maybe this time last year? I think that would be kind of helpful to just build some mental model for all of us around how the top line might unfold this year.

Thanks. Yeah. I would say the pipeline continues to be very robust and at least as good as last year at this point.

We continually build on the pipeline of opportunities, and we continue to add new markets and new niches that we're pursuing aggressively to go ahead and expand our total addressable market, adding sectors. In particular, if you think about workplace experience, really aggressively pursuing new opportunities in the legal world, if you will, and top-tier law firms. If you look in international, pursuing new mining initiatives, new remote camp initiatives. We continue to build the pipeline with lots of new opportunities, and it continues to be very robust. I would say there's really no fundamental change year-over-year other than we're continuing to invest in the growth of the enterprise. We expect it to continue, very encouraged by the strong results this year, and also, again, encouraged by the very strong retention rate and the discipline inside the organization.

All in all, I think it leads to fundamentally a very strong trajectory going into 2026. As Jim described, we'll have our seasonal kind of normal impacts on a quarter-to-quarter basis. Overall, I think our full-year guidance is absolutely achievable and, yeah, very comfortable with the ranges that we've talked about.

Our next question comes from Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Your line is open.

Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Can you just talk, just getting back a little bit more to those contracts that did not start quite as expected in the fourth quarter? Can you just talk a little bit more about whether there were carry costs that were incurred as part of that? For some of those contracts, does that continue into the first quarter in terms of impacting margin?

Or just trying to have a better understanding as to the impact financially and then, frankly, the visibility that you have in terms of managing your business towards those things. I'll follow up.

Yeah. I would say, yeah, there's a little bit of ramp-up and starting costs, particularly for those accounts that have already opened in the first quarter on the correction side and in some of those other businesses. Yeah, we were preparing to open them and incurring costs in the fourth quarter in terms of the run rate opening costs, if you will. There is a little bit of an impact there that dribbles into the fourth quarter or into the first quarter, I would guess. I wouldn't characterize it as overly significant. I think all in all, I would point you to two big items.

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