In today’s edition of MPW Daily: the top female podcaster in the U.S. leaves her network, there’s a hidden cost to raising VC funding, and Fortune’s Orianna Rosa Royle brings us the highlights from Fortune Global Forum in Riyadh.
On the ground at Fortune Global Forum in Riyadh, we heard from some of the world’s most accomplished leaders—including a Nobel Peace Prize winner who is literally in hiding (more on that below).
But one conversation stayed with me: Our closing session, featuring Dr. Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, director general of the World Trade Organization. It was a clear example of the invisible barriers still holding women back. She took over in 2021—and was the first female leader in the organization’s 30-year history. When asked by Fortune’s Ellie Austin why it took so long, the Nigerian economist pointed out the daunting interview process.
“There were eight candidates for my job and we were being interviewed practically in front of the whole world, because there were 166 ministers tuning in,” she explained. Not many would be able to stomach it. “If you failed, the whole world would know about it…so maybe many people don’t want to go through that process.”
Other women may have had what it takes to do the role well, Okonjo-Iweala suspects. But research shows that women have a tendency to play it safe, not to apply unless they meet every possible qualification—and it has a ripple effect on their career progression.
Okonjo-Iweala had the guts to go for it. And sometimes, that’s what counts.
“With the number of talented women experts in trade I meet around the world, I just wondered why they haven’t been given the chance and the opportunity,” she said. “Sometimes you have to take the risk.”
Staying in your lane is comfortable. Even Okonjo-Iweala admits she could have stayed in her “very nice job” at the World Bank, where she had a 25-year career. But in her eyes, that would have been “a mistake.” Instead, she directly—even “impertinently”—told her interviewers at the WTO that she was the best person for the job because she brought “different thinking and a different approach,” including as the first woman and first African in the position, at a time when the institution needed reform. “I guess I’m a risk-taker and a masochist,” Okonjo-Iweala said.
Okonjo-Iweala was the last (but not least) impressive exec to take the stage at the 2-day event: We heard from over 100 speakers on the biggest issues impacting leaders today, from the economy and tariffs to AI and sustainability.
– The Venezuelan opposition leader, Maria Corina Machado, talked to Fortune while in hiding for fear of her life. The recent Nobel Peace Prize winner dialed in on a video call to speak out about how Venezuela’s President, Nicolás Maduro and “the regime” can be dismantled—and how helpful President Donald Trump really has been in helping achieve freedom in the country.
– AI is “so much more than just a chatbot,” said Google’s president and chief investment officer, Ruth Porat. She added that we’re lucky to be living through this tech era, with breakthroughs in science and health on the horizon: “We should be able to cure cancer in our lifetime.”
Orianna Rosa Royle
orianna.royle@fortune.com
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PARTING WORDS
"One minute you’re the hot ingenue and you’re up here, and then the next minute you’re wondering why you’re not in the conversation for certain things that you know you can do. It’s never been something that has defined my value."
— Kate Hudson on the ups and downs of a career in Hollywood