Cisco’s John Chambers: India, not China, is the future

Diane BradyBy Diane BradyExecutive Editorial Director, Fortune Live Media and author of CEO Daily
Diane BradyExecutive Editorial Director, Fortune Live Media and author of CEO Daily

Diane Brady is an award-winning business journalist and author who has interviewed newsmakers worldwide and often speaks about the global business landscape. As executive editorial director of the Fortune CEO Initiative, she brings together a growing community of global business leaders through conversations, content, and connections. She is also executive editorial director of Fortune Live Media and interviews newsmakers for the magazine and the CEO Daily newsletter.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
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Today: The U.S. stock markets closed broadly up yesterday although they remain below their all-time highs. Europe and China were broadly up this morning. US futures for the S&P 500 pointed to more gains before the opening bell.

Nvidia stock closed up nearly 4% after the Biden administration launched an investigation into the Chinese semiconductor industry — paving the way for the incoming Trump Administration to throw more roadblocks in front of foreign chip competition. 

Cisco’s John Chambers suggests doubling down on India, not China

Good morning. ‘Tis the season to ponder what might happen in the new year. For that, I decided to check in with John Chambers, CEO of JC2 Ventures and former CEO of Cisco. Having written a leadership book with John called Connecting the Dots, I know how curious and connected he is. Here are his 2025 predictions, which range from a good year for the U.S. stock market to a banner year for India:

“With India, you’re seeing a country in transformation and it’s because of Prime Minister Modi’s leadership. India was the last place I would go for innovation in the ‘90s or early 2000s but a great place to go for talent. When he came in, it moved to being the best place to do startups and innovation.”

“China should have been the country that won the world’s innovation approach with startups and high tech. Most would have said that was inevitable. They are going from 1.4 billion people to 800 million [by the end of the century].  The AI world is moving with five times the speed. You can’t do top-down planning or control innovation, and you’ve got to have people trust you. Your currency in the world is your track record, your relationships, and your trust. And China’s hurting at all three.”

“I think the [AI]  wave is going to be so big and so broad. It’s going to be hard for startups to survive five and 10 years out because that speed and consolidation is going to be something we’ve never seen before. And if the big guys are as effective as I think they are, they will create challenges. But if you believe that AI is at the heart of every industry, every size company, every individual, which I do, it’s a pretty bright world.”

“My advice for leaders, especially CEOs, is: embrace it. Don’t fear it. Your employees will see if you’re in fear. Every group ought to be building a plan for up to 10% productivity growth per year by function. Disrupt yourself before somebody else does.”

Also on our radar today:

  • Former Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz regularly paid for drugs and sex, according to a 37-page ethics report from Congress. “[T]here is substantial evidence that Representative Gaetz violated House Rules and other standards of conduct prohibiting prostitution, statutory rape, illicit drug use, impermissible gifts, special favors or privileges, and obstruction of Congress,” the report states.
  • Ursa Major, the largest ship operated by the logistics arm of the Russian military, sank on Tuesday off the coasts of Spain and Algeria while en route from St Petersburg to Vladivostok. The ship foundered after an explosion in its engine room according to Russia’s foreign ministry.
  • China’s Xi Jinping is pushing a new national effort to create an industrial supply chain that will make whatever the country needs, bolstering its economic resilience to possible U.S. tariffs that could include countermeasures restricting the supply of certain raw materials to the West. But he isn’t tackling China’s structural debt issues, critics say.
  • Telegram is on track to book $1 billion in revenue, up from $350 the prior year, according to information leaked to The New York Times. The company also has $500 million in cash reserves. All despite its founder Pavel Durov being arrested in France for allegedly failing to curtail illegal activity on the platform.

From the analysts: Goldman Sachs has revised down the number of basis point cuts it expects the Federal Reserve to make in 2025. “Our own forecast for 2025 rate cuts has declined more modestly from 100bp to 75bp. The most important reason is that reports of a rebound in underlying inflation have been greatly exaggerated,” Goldman’s Jan Hatzius and his team said today in a note to investors seen by Fortune.

More news below. 

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