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What Bank Accounts and Toilets Can Teach Us About Corruption in India

November 4, 2015, 7:03 PM UTC
Fortune Global Forum 2015
FORTUNE GLOBAL FORUM Tuesday, November 3rd, 2015 2015 FORTUNE GLOBAL FORUM San Francisco, CA, USA 11:55 am-12:40 pm EMERGING MARKETS Although the emerging markets are experiencing significant headwinds, important immediate pockets of opportunity remain. The deep-current trends are even more compelling, including the dramatic rise in a global middle class that has a growing appetite for upper-end products and services. Is your company ready and positioned? Panelists: Dominic Barton, Global Managing Director, McKinsey & Company. John Rice, Vice Chairman, GE Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman, Minister of Commerce & Industry, Government of India Moderator: Nina Easton, Fortune Photograph by Stuart Isett/Fortune Global Forum
Photograph by Stuart Isett/Fortune Global Forum

If you want to know how well India is addressing its corruption problems, just take a look at bank accounts and toilets.

That was the message from Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman, India’s minister of state for commerce and industry, at the Fortune Global Forum conference on Tuesday.

In a little over a year, 190 million Indian citizens have opened bank accounts for the first time. The balances in the accounts are small, just an average of $21 per account. Nevertheless, Sitharaman said, “financial inclusion” has been a major push of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s administration, not just because it can improve the finances of India’s poorest citizens, but because it also helps stamp out corruption.

When government workers are paid in cash, middle men can take a portion of those wages. That has been the case with India’s pension payments as well. Today, the government can deposit money directly in workers’ accounts, eliminating fraud.

Sitharaman added that something as simple as counting toilets can offer a helpful glimpse into India’s progress in combatting corruption. She said that for 60 years India provided money to put toilets into small villages around the nation. But many of those toilets were never installed. But in the past year, the Indian government has made a major effort to verify the efforts to increase sanitation. And that has helped reduce corruption.

“India was spending money to put toilets in schools, but god knows where the money went,” says Sitharaman.

Dominic Barton, a managing director at McKinsey, said that a recent report from the consulting firm found that government reforms in India were not only making a difference for the nation’s citizens, but such moves were also making the country more attractive to foreign businesses. “Three years ago, when clients would ask about doing business in India, I would say, ‘Don’t waste your time. It’s too complicated and too difficult,'” said Barton. “That’s changed dramatically.”