• Home
  • Latest
  • Fortune 500
  • Finance
  • Tech
  • Leadership
  • Lifestyle
  • Rankings
  • Multimedia

Apple Q1 earnings: How big the bounce?

By
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Down Arrow Button Icon
By
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Down Arrow Button Icon
January 20, 2008, 10:26 AM ET

Apple (AAPL) by all accounts had a terrific holiday season. The Apple Stores were packed, and Macs, iPods and iPhones were shipping in record numbers. On Christmas day alone, Steve Jobs announced at Macworld last week, the company sold 20 million songs.

Then the market tanked, and Apple’s shares, having more than doubled in 2007, went into free fall. As the Dow dropped 10 percent, Apple dropped more than 20 percent, from a record high of 202.96 to just over 161.36 last Friday.

This will presumably change on Tuesday, when the company reports its quarterly earnings. If nothing else, day traders are likely to load up on the stock and it options, anticipating that Apple will easily beat its projected $1.42 earnings per share on sales of $9.2 billion — guidance that was considered uncharacteristically unconservative when it was offered three months ago. The street consensus is now $1.62 EPS on $9.47 billion. Piper Jaffray’s Gene Munster, always the optimist, is looking for $1.73 on $9.73 billion, and as of Jan. 14 was still calling for a price target of 250.

Even Munster doesn’t expect that kind of bounce when earnings are announced after Tuesday’s market close. What he and the other analysts will be tuning in for is the conference call that starts at 5 p.m. ET. (You can listen to the webcast here.) How Apple’s shares behave in the weeks ahead will depend on a handful of key numbers to be revealed in that call. Here are the ones the traders who hang out at The Mac Observer‘s Apple Finance Board will be listening for:

  • Earnings per share. Beating guidance and meeting the street consensus is a given. The traders here are whispering about $1.80 per share, and even that wouldn’t equal the 73 percent year-to-year earnings growth Apple has achieved over the past four quarters. To do that, it would need $1.94 EPS.
  • Forward guidance. Apple tends to be cautious when projecting future earnings, preferring to under-promise and over-deliver. But traders are abnormally sensitive these days to recession signals, and if the company’s forward guidance is too conservative, it could be read as a sign that even Apple is starting to feel the pinch.
  • Gross margins. As the AFB moderator who calls himself DawnTreader puts it: “Volume is nice. But high-margin volume is better.” He’s watching how much of each sales dollar flowed to cover operating costs and to the bottom line after manufacturing costs.
  • Mac sales. This is the key to the quarter, according to Piper Jaffray’s Munster. “If Apple sells 2.3 million units, it would be a significant positive,” he wrote in a report to clients issued last week. “2.3 million Macs represents 43% y/y growth compared to 28% y/y in Dec-06 and 20% in Dec-05.”
  • Deferred revenue. I don’t pretend to fully understand the significance of the tricky way Apple accounts for its iPhone and Apple TV revenue. But this is what DawnTreader says about it: “One of the most important numbers IMHO is the net pick-up in cash exclusive of deferred revenue liabilities. Net income and EPS is impacted by a number of non-cash expenses including depreciation and amortization. How much net cash exclusive of deferred revenue and other liabilities flowed to the balance sheet?” (link)

Got that? Good luck.

About the Author
By Philip Elmer-DeWitt
See full bioRight Arrow Button Icon

Latest in

student
CommentaryEducation
International students skipped campus this fall — and local economies lost $1 billion because of it
By Bjorn MarkesonDecember 10, 2025
5 minutes ago
Goldman Sachs' logo seen displayed on a smartphone with an AI chip and symbol in the background.
NewslettersCFO Daily
Goldman Sachs CFO on the company’s AI reboot, talent, and growth
By Sheryl EstradaDecember 10, 2025
57 minutes ago
Current price of silver as of Wednesday, December 10, 2025
Personal Financesilver
Current price of silver as of Wednesday, December 10, 2025
By Joseph HostetlerDecember 10, 2025
1 hour ago
EconomyFederal Reserve
If the Fed cuts interest rates today, it may be the last one until June 2026
By Jim EdwardsDecember 10, 2025
1 hour ago
A sign showing the US-Canada border in front of a bunch of dead, barren trees in winter
Politicstourism
Exclusive: U.S. businesses are getting throttled by the drop in tourism from Canada: ‘I can count the number of Canadian visitors on one hand’
By Dave SmithDecember 10, 2025
2 hours ago
NewslettersCIO Intelligence
Inside tractor maker CNH’s push to bring more artificial intelligence to the farm
By John KellDecember 10, 2025
2 hours ago

Most Popular

placeholder alt text
Economy
‘Fodder for a recession’: Top economist Mark Zandi warns about so many Americans ‘already living on the financial edge’ in a K-shaped economy 
By Eva RoytburgDecember 9, 2025
17 hours ago
placeholder alt text
Success
When David Ellison was 13, his billionaire father Larry bought him a plane. He competed in air shows before leaving it to become a Hollywood executive
By Dave SmithDecember 9, 2025
1 day ago
placeholder alt text
Banking
Jamie Dimon taps Jeff Bezos, Michael Dell, and Ford CEO Jim Farley to advise JPMorgan's $1.5 trillion national security initiative
By Nino PaoliDecember 9, 2025
18 hours ago
placeholder alt text
Uncategorized
Transforming customer support through intelligent AI operations
By Lauren ChomiukNovember 26, 2025
14 days ago
placeholder alt text
Success
Even the man behind ChatGPT, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, is worried about the ‘rate of change that’s happening in the world right now’ thanks to AI
By Preston ForeDecember 9, 2025
22 hours ago
placeholder alt text
Real Estate
The 'Great Housing Reset' is coming: Income growth will outpace home-price growth in 2026, Redfin forecasts
By Nino PaoliDecember 6, 2025
4 days ago
Rankings
  • 100 Best Companies
  • Fortune 500
  • Global 500
  • Fortune 500 Europe
  • Most Powerful Women
  • Future 50
  • World’s Most Admired Companies
  • See All Rankings
Sections
  • Finance
  • Leadership
  • Success
  • Tech
  • Asia
  • Europe
  • Environment
  • Fortune Crypto
  • Health
  • Retail
  • Lifestyle
  • Politics
  • Newsletters
  • Magazine
  • Features
  • Commentary
  • Mpw
  • CEO Initiative
  • Conferences
  • Personal Finance
  • Education
Customer Support
  • Frequently Asked Questions
  • Customer Service Portal
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms Of Use
  • Single Issues For Purchase
  • International Print
Commercial Services
  • Advertising
  • Fortune Brand Studio
  • Fortune Analytics
  • Fortune Conferences
  • Business Development
About Us
  • About Us
  • Editorial Calendar
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Diversity And Inclusion
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map

© 2025 Fortune Media IP Limited. All Rights Reserved. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy | CA Notice at Collection and Privacy Notice | Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Information
FORTUNE is a trademark of Fortune Media IP Limited, registered in the U.S. and other countries. FORTUNE may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Offers may be subject to change without notice.