• Home
  • Latest
  • Fortune 500
  • Finance
  • Tech
  • Leadership
  • Lifestyle
  • Rankings
  • Multimedia
LeadershipView from the C-Suite

Do insider or outsider CEOs perform better? Estée Lauder and Ross Stores’ new leaders illuminate the divide

Phil Wahba
By
Phil Wahba
Phil Wahba
Senior Writer
Down Arrow Button Icon
Phil Wahba
By
Phil Wahba
Phil Wahba
Senior Writer
Down Arrow Button Icon
November 7, 2024, 10:22 AM ET
Incoming Estee Lauder CEO Stéphane de La Faverie seen at the Lycée Français de New York Gala 2024 at  The Glasshouse on May 09, 2024 in New York City.
Incoming Estee Lauder CEO Stéphane de La Faverie seen at the Lycée Français de New York Gala 2024 at The Glasshouse on May 09, 2024 in New York City. Jared Siskin—Patrick McMullan/Getty Image

When Estée Lauder Cos announced last week that a long-time insider, Stéphane de La Faverie, was going to be its next CEO, many on Wall Street felt that the slumping beauty giant would have been better off choosing an outsider to really shake things up and bring in new perspectives more than a lifer could.

Recommended Video

In contrast, Ross Stores, whose business is healthier than Estée Lauder’s though softer than that of its direct rivals, chose an outsider in Jim Conroy, CEO of Boot Barn, despite him coming from a different kind of retailer and Ross’s strong talent development machine.

The two appointments underscore how often the insider vs. outsider debate at a company is shaped by what can be contradictory pressures. Your company might need a bit of a shock to the system that new blood can bring, but it might also need someone who knows where the bodies are buried so that he or she can spring more quickly into action.

In de La Faverie, who takes the Estée Lauder reins on January 1, the company has a new CEO who knows the company intimately and has even helped craft its existing turnaround plan. What’s more, his purview represents about half of its business, including brands like Jo Malone London and Le Labo. But Estée Lauder is dealing with ongoing difficulties, among them the slowdown in beauty spending after years of growth, the integration of its many acquisitions as well as current CEO Fabrizio Freda’s outsized bet on China, a once hot luxury market that had sputtered. Given that, the board seems to have bet that it’s more important for the next CEO to know the company’s inner workings and move with speed.

De La Faverie, who has been at Estée Lauder for more than 12 years, “won’t have to go through a lengthy assessment and adjustment phase, and can start to implement changes quickly,” wrote Linda Bolton Weiser, an analyst at D.A. Davidson. Then again, a long time insider might not be the change agent the 78-year-old beauty company needs. “Some in the investor community were likely hoping for an external hire who could lend a fresh perspective and make more dramatic changes to the organization,” wrote Oliver Chen, an analyst at TD Cowen last week. Estée Lauder investors got a big jolt last week when the company announced it was cutting its dividend in half to put more money back in the business.

While Freda was well regarded for years as his big bet on China paid off and sent Estée Lauder shares soaring, sentiment turned against him more recently as that luxury market faded. Complicating matters at Estée Lauder was that the succession planning became the epicenter of a battle between two branches of the founding Lauder family over whether to hire an insider or an outsider, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Ross Stores, an off-price retailer whose business relies on securing merchandise from vendors that weren’t able to sell it via other retailers, went in the other direction. The board was clearly drawn to Conroy’s strong track record at Boot Barn, where revenue rose five-fold to $1.67 billion in the last decade. (Boot Barn shares fell 20% on news of its star CEO’s departure.) But Boot Barn is a far smaller retailer than Ross, which last year brought in more than $20 billion, and Conroy does not have any experience in off-price retail, in which the required skills executives must have are very specific.

Conroy replaces Barbara Rentler, a Ross Stores lifer who’s been CEO for a decade. Still, like TJX, which operates Marshalls and T.J. Maxx, and Burlington Stores, Ross has ridden the “off-price” retail wave, but not quite as well as its peers, pressuring the board to choose a CEO who can close that growth gap but also open up its insular culture.

Ross Stores is, as one analyst put it, a “show-me story.” But the chain is being given credit for strong succession planning. Outgoing CEO Rentler said in July 2023 that her plan calls for her to stay on as an advisor to Conroy for two years from February 2025. That is something Telsey Advisory Group’s Dana Telsey applauds because “Conroy is new to the off-price channel” and having a steady hand will help smooth the transition.

Earlier this autumn we saw the saw the same insider vs. outsider CEO debate play out at Nike and Starbucks. Nike in 2019 chose an outsider with no retail experience in former CEO John Donahoe, drawn by his background in tech. But after his disastrous tenure ended this autumn, Nike did a 180 degree turn and went to a Nike lifer, Elliott Hill, for his deep knowledge of the business and ability to rally the troops.

At Starbucks, they chose an outsider. But in former Chipotle Mexican Grill CEO Brian Niccol, the coffee store chain chose someone who has fixed a large chain of restaurants serving food and beverages and put it on a path of growth but also brings in a new outside perspective.

Choosing a CEO is an intensely complex matter for the search committees of corporate boards, with many factors behind why a company might choose an insider when an outsider might make more sense, and vice versa. “Board have to juggle a lot of considerations between the articulation of future strategy, skills, experiences, competencies, and then also the cultural and personal attributes,” says Brenda Malloy, the CEO of Herbert Mines Associates, an executive search firm.

At Estée Lauder and Ross, each leader will need time to make their mark, but the stock market has already weighed in: Estée Lauder stock is down 20% since its insider appointment, while Ross shares are roughly at the same level since the news of an outsider joining.

Join us at the Fortune Workplace Innovation Summit May 19–20, 2026, in Atlanta. The next era of workplace innovation is here—and the old playbook is being rewritten. At this exclusive, high-energy event, the world’s most innovative leaders will convene to explore how AI, humanity, and strategy converge to redefine, again, the future of work. Register now.
About the Author
Phil Wahba
By Phil WahbaSenior Writer
LinkedIn iconTwitter icon

Phil Wahba is a senior writer at Fortune primarily focused on leadership coverage, with a prior focus on retail.

See full bioRight Arrow Button Icon

Latest in Leadership

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025

Most Popular

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Fortune Secondary Logo
Rankings
  • 100 Best Companies
  • Fortune 500
  • Global 500
  • Fortune 500 Europe
  • Most Powerful Women
  • World's Most Admired Companies
  • See All Rankings
  • Lists Calendar
Sections
  • Finance
  • Fortune Crypto
  • Features
  • Leadership
  • Health
  • Commentary
  • Success
  • Retail
  • Mpw
  • Tech
  • Lifestyle
  • CEO Initiative
  • Asia
  • Politics
  • Conferences
  • Europe
  • Newsletters
  • Personal Finance
  • Environment
  • Magazine
  • Education
Customer Support
  • Frequently Asked Questions
  • Customer Service Portal
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms Of Use
  • Single Issues For Purchase
  • International Print
Commercial Services
  • Advertising
  • Fortune Brand Studio
  • Fortune Analytics
  • Fortune Conferences
  • Business Development
  • Group Subscriptions
About Us
  • About Us
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • About Us
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • Facebook icon
  • Twitter icon
  • LinkedIn icon
  • Instagram icon
  • Pinterest icon

Latest in Leadership

Jensen Huang says some CEOs have a ‘God complex’ when it comes to AI apocalypse warnings, which can create shortages of critical workers
AIchief executive officer (CEO)
Jensen Huang says some CEOs have a ‘God complex’ when it comes to AI apocalypse warnings, which can create shortages of critical workers
By Jason MaMay 2, 2026
9 hours ago
conway
North AmericaObituary
Gerry Conway, comics legend who created the Punisher, dies at 73
By Claire Rush and The Associated PressMay 2, 2026
10 hours ago
bard
C-SuiteJeffrey Epstein
Bard College president steps down, months after his deep ties to Jeffrey Epstein were revealed
By The Associated PressMay 2, 2026
10 hours ago
shoplift
EconomyGen Z
Gen Z is rebelling against the economy with ‘disillusionomics,’ tackling near 6-figure debt by turning life into a giant list of income streams
By Jacqueline MunisMay 2, 2026
11 hours ago
First Watch CEO Chris Tomasso holding his fist up at the New York Stock Exchange
SuccessView from the C-Suite
CEO writes hundreds of thank you notes to staff and still eats in the break room—which ‘always, for whatever reason, blows new employees away’
By Preston ForeMay 2, 2026
11 hours ago
Suze Orman once said earning more than $800,000 would make her ‘sick to my stomach’—but that turning down Oprah Winfrey cured her self-doubt
SuccessHow I made my first million
Suze Orman once said earning more than $800,000 would make her ‘sick to my stomach’—but that turning down Oprah Winfrey cured her self-doubt
By Orianna Rosa RoyleMay 2, 2026
11 hours ago

Most Popular

Scott Bessent on financial literacy: 'it drives me crazy' to see young men in blue-collar construction jobs playing the lottery
Personal Finance
Scott Bessent on financial literacy: 'it drives me crazy' to see young men in blue-collar construction jobs playing the lottery
By Fatima Hussein and The Associated PressMay 1, 2026
2 days ago
Gen Z is rebelling against the economy with ‘disillusionomics,’ tackling near 6-figure debt by turning life into a giant list of income streams
Economy
Gen Z is rebelling against the economy with ‘disillusionomics,’ tackling near 6-figure debt by turning life into a giant list of income streams
By Jacqueline MunisMay 2, 2026
11 hours ago
A Chick-fil-A worker got fired and then showed up behind the register to allegedly refund himself over $80,000 in mac and cheese
Law
A Chick-fil-A worker got fired and then showed up behind the register to allegedly refund himself over $80,000 in mac and cheese
By Catherina GioinoMay 1, 2026
1 day ago
Current price of oil as of May 1, 2026
Personal Finance
Current price of oil as of May 1, 2026
By Joseph HostetlerMay 1, 2026
2 days ago
Stop donating to Harvard and the Ivy League. There's a better option that MacKenzie Scott already figured out
Commentary
Stop donating to Harvard and the Ivy League. There's a better option that MacKenzie Scott already figured out
By Ed Smith-LewisMay 2, 2026
16 hours ago
Apple cofounder Ronald Wayne—whose stake would be worth up to $400 billion had he not sold it in 1976—says that at 91, he has no regrets
Success
Apple cofounder Ronald Wayne—whose stake would be worth up to $400 billion had he not sold it in 1976—says that at 91, he has no regrets
By Preston ForeApril 27, 2026
5 days ago

© 2026 Fortune Media IP Limited. All Rights Reserved. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy | CA Notice at Collection and Privacy Notice | Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Information
FORTUNE is a trademark of Fortune Media IP Limited, registered in the U.S. and other countries. FORTUNE may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Offers may be subject to change without notice.