Indra Nooyi says asking for a raise is ‘cringeworthy.’ Women are doing it anyways

– Nothing to cringe at. There’s no doubt Indra Nooyi, the former CEO of PepsiCo, is an inspiring business leader—for women, for women of color, for working mothers, for immigrants, for champions of sustainability and those nudging consumers toward healthier lifestyles. It’s no wonder that when I Google ‘Indra Nooyi,’ a top-suggested term is her ‘leadership quotes.’ People want to hear from the business executive (and new author) who ran one of the world’s largest companies for an impressive 12-year streak.

But they might’ve been a bit surprised—as I was—to hear Nooyi’s recent comments on pay. In an interview with The New York Times magazine, Nooyi said she’d “never, ever, ever asked for a raise.” Why? “I find it cringeworthy,” she said. “I cannot imagine working for somebody and saying my pay is not enough.”

It’s clear from the interview that Nooyi is very cognizant of the financial privilege she amassed late in her career. In her last full year at as PepsiCo CEO, she earned $31 million. More executives could use that kind of self-awareness. And maybe Nooyi always felt that she was paid fairly for the work she did, and well, it’s hard to argue with that.

Still, the comment was stunning in that it came from such titan of the corporate world. At the same time, it was relatable. Women are socialized to not talk about money, let alone ask for more of it. We know that demanding higher pay reflects poorly on us. McKinsey and LeanIn.org research in 2016 found that women who negotiate for raises and promotions are 30% more likely than men who negotiate to be called “bossy,” “intimidating,” or “too aggressive,” and they are 67% more likely than women who don’t negotiate to get that feedback.

What’s reassuring is that many women likely have those feelings, but ask for the money anyways. Researchers found that—contrary to conventional wisdom—women ask for raises just as often as men.

The gender pay gap makes it clear that those demands are not always met. In fact, though women and men ask for raises at the same rate, men are more likely to get them, a phenomenon academics blame on discrimination. One way to combat that bias is to normalize women asking for raises, a trend that seems to be underway. Plenty of women are asking to be paid what they’re worth in private, and more and more, it seems, women are doing it in public; athletes are demanding equal pay, comics are declining to work for free, and actors are speaking up when they feel shortchanged. None of them have cringed; in fact, they’ve barely blinked.

Claire Zillman
claire.zillman@fortune.com
@clairezillman

The Broadsheet, Fortune’s newsletter for and about the world’s most powerful women, is coauthored by Kristen Bellstrom, Emma Hinchliffe, and Claire Zillman. Today’s edition was curated by Emma Hinchliffe. 

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PARTING WORDS

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