• Home
  • Latest
  • Fortune 500
  • Finance
  • Tech
  • Leadership
  • Lifestyle
  • Rankings
  • Multimedia
FinanceAlibaba Group Inc.

Save me from myself, I think Alibaba is a buy

Geoff Colvin
By
Geoff Colvin
Geoff Colvin
Senior Editor-at-Large
Down Arrow Button Icon
Geoff Colvin
By
Geoff Colvin
Geoff Colvin
Senior Editor-at-Large
Down Arrow Button Icon
September 18, 2014, 5:00 AM ET
Alibaba To Kick Off IPO In U.S.
Alibaba Group headquarters in Hangzhou, ChinaPhotograph by Hong Wu—Getty Images

I can’t believe I’m saying this.

A hyper-hyped Internet company has whipped investors into a frenzy, rendering them willing, even eager, to crawl over broken glass to get shares. It feels like 1999, and we know how that turned out. Yet an analysis of Alibaba’s financial statements, done in a way that’s extraordinarily revealing and that has not been described elsewhere, shows that the stock actually looks like a good buy at its offering price of $68 a share.

This analysis is distinctive because it looks at economic profit, the measure that best shows how a company is performing. Research has found that stock prices track economic profit much more closely than they follow more popular measures like earnings per share. Economic profit told me in 1999, for example, that AOL was insanely overvalued (a contrarian view at the time, believe it or not) because its stock price could be justified only by future economic profit increases that were clearly impossible. That same kind of analysis suggests that Alibaba’s IPO valuation is—dare I say it—reasonable.

The concept of economic profit is simple: Take a company’s operating performance—its net after-tax operating profit—and subtract the cost of the capital (debt and equity) that was used in producing that profit. Accounting rules don’t require companies to calculate that figure, but companies as diverse as Coca-Cola, Deere, Whole Foods, and Walt Disney calculate it anyway because it’s so useful. It has long been calculated for thousands of public companies by the consulting firm EVA Dimensions, which performed the research I cite here. (EVA means economic value added, another name for economic profit.)

Alibaba is an economic-profit superstar. The amount of economic profit it produces per dollar of sales—its “EVA margin”—is “off-the-charts great,” says Craig Sterling, global head of equity research at EVA Dimensions. It was 36% over the most recent four quarters. The same measure for Facebook is 27%; for Apple and Google, it’s 14%; the median among the Russell 3,000 firms is about 2%. So Alibaba is almost literally off the charts.

What counts for investors, however, is not what you’ve done but what you’re going to do. The EVA Dimensions team has put together a detailed forecast, which we’ll take a look at, but I like to start with a simpler question: What’s the minimum future performance the company would have to achieve in order to justify the current stock price? And is it even reasonable to think the company might achieve it? That’s the test that AOL failed in 1999. But Alibaba passes it easily.

Consider that Alibaba’s sales increased 48% over the past four quarters; let’s imagine that that rate declines steadily and, after 10 years, settles down to a long-term rate of just 1% annual sales growth. That EVA margin of 36%? Let’s suppose it shrinks to a 10% long-term rate. Calculate the present value of that future performance, built on very modest assumptions, and you get a stock value of $71.44, or slightly more than the stated offering price. In other words, it seems reasonable.

Here’s an even easier way to think of it. A $68 share price is justified if Alibaba increases its economic profit by $1.2 billion a year for the next decade. Is that plausible? Absolutely. The company increased its economic profit by $1.3 billion last year, so with sales growing, it could hit its target even if margins shrink.

But you could argue that Alibaba merits considerably brighter expectations. The EVA Dimensions team forecasts, for example, that over the next 10 years, Alibaba’s sales will grow by a factor of 8.6, to about $79 billion. Outlandish? Not when you consider that sales at Amazon, a much bigger company in a very similar business, have increased even more over the past 10 years—by a factor of 10.7, to about $82 billion. Consider also that Amazon has achieved its stellar growth by operating mostly in the pokey old North American economy, while Alibaba does most of its business in the world’s fastest growing major economy, China.

The EVA Dimensions team also assumes that Alibaba can maintain its knockout EVA margin at around 36% over the next 10 years. That seems like a stretch to me—I don’t believe any large company has ever done that—but if you accept it, plus the analysts’ assumption that long-term annual sales growth will in fact level out at 4% after a decade, you get a stock value of $130. Wowie.

While that 36% EVA margin assumption may be too ambitious, the 4% long-term sales growth assumption may actually be too conservative. After all, Amazon is about a decade further along than Alibaba, and it grew sales by 22% last year. The comforting thing is that you don’t need ambitious assumptions, or anything close, to justify an Alibaba share price of $68.

The most disturbing thing about the Alibaba IPO is the mania surrounding it. But let’s remember that other ultra-hyped tech IPOs, such as Google and Facebook’s, have turned out to be magnificent investments. At least they have if you got them at the offering price. The test will be what happens in the hours, days, and weeks following the IPO. If the price rockets, we’ll know that we’re seeing the madness of crowds, just like in 1999.

About the Author
Geoff Colvin
By Geoff ColvinSenior Editor-at-Large
LinkedIn iconTwitter icon

Geoff Colvin is a senior editor-at-large at Fortune, covering leadership, globalization, wealth creation, the infotech revolution, and related issues.

See full bioRight Arrow Button Icon

Latest in Finance

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025

Most Popular

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Fortune Secondary Logo
Rankings
  • 100 Best Companies
  • Fortune 500
  • Global 500
  • Fortune 500 Europe
  • Most Powerful Women
  • Future 50
  • World’s Most Admired Companies
  • See All Rankings
Sections
  • Finance
  • Fortune Crypto
  • Features
  • Leadership
  • Health
  • Commentary
  • Success
  • Retail
  • Mpw
  • Tech
  • Lifestyle
  • CEO Initiative
  • Asia
  • Politics
  • Conferences
  • Europe
  • Newsletters
  • Personal Finance
  • Environment
  • Magazine
  • Education
Customer Support
  • Frequently Asked Questions
  • Customer Service Portal
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms Of Use
  • Single Issues For Purchase
  • International Print
Commercial Services
  • Advertising
  • Fortune Brand Studio
  • Fortune Analytics
  • Fortune Conferences
  • Business Development
  • Group Subscriptions
About Us
  • About Us
  • Editorial Calendar
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Diversity And Inclusion
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
Fortune Secondary Logo
  • About Us
  • Editorial Calendar
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Diversity And Inclusion
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • Facebook icon
  • Twitter icon
  • LinkedIn icon
  • Instagram icon
  • Pinterest icon

Latest in Finance

Nepali consumers wait in line carrying empty LPG cylinders as they rush to gas depots to refill them as growing tensions in West Asia halt the supply in Kathmandu, Nepal, on March 12, 2026. People wait for hours hoping to refill their gas cylinders. While some manage to purchase filled cylinders, many others return empty-handed as supplies remain limited. The disruption follows the escalating conflict involving the United States, Israel, and Iran, which heightens tensions across the Gulf region. Shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, a key maritime route bordering Iran, the United Arab Emirates, and Oman, is also affected by the conflict, disrupting the transport of gas and petroleum products. The impact is now felt in markets around the world.
EnergyIran
Exxon, Chevron, and other US oil and gas producers and refiners hit all-time-high stock values amid Iran war while consumers pay the price
By Jordan BlumMarch 12, 2026
1 hour ago
Personal Financemortgages
What is an assumable mortgage, and can it help you get a low interest rate?
By Joseph HostetlerMarch 12, 2026
1 hour ago
engineer
EconomyRecession
Goldman just raised recession odds to 25%. Here’s what Trump’s war economy is doing to jobs
By Nick LichtenbergMarch 12, 2026
2 hours ago
iran
Middle EastMiddle East
Iran’s new Supreme Leader warns of ‘opening other fronts’ in first statement from hiding
By Jon Gambrell, David Rising, Mike Corder, Natalie Melzer and The Associated PressMarch 12, 2026
3 hours ago
evs
Energygas
This 55-year-old supply chain management professor took a gamble last year: he bought an electric vehicle
By Alexa St. John, Tammy Webber and The Associated PressMarch 12, 2026
3 hours ago
CryptoBinance
Inside the Binance accounts internal investigators say helped transfer more than $1 billion to Iran-linked entities: A 79-year-old VIP Chinese trader and a suspected Iranian gold smuggler
By Leo Schwartz and Ben WeissMarch 12, 2026
3 hours ago

Most Popular

placeholder alt text
Economy
'This cannot be sustainable': The U.S. borrowed $50 billion a week for the past five months, the CBO says
By Eleanor PringleMarch 10, 2026
2 days ago
placeholder alt text
AI
'Proceed with caution': Elon Musk offers warning after Amazon reportedly had mandatory meeting to address 'high blast radius' and AI-related incidents
By Sasha RogelbergMarch 11, 2026
1 day ago
placeholder alt text
Commentary
How the ultrawealthy use smartphone apps to avoid millions in taxes
By Jose AtilesMarch 11, 2026
1 day ago
placeholder alt text
Success
BlackRock is splashing $100 million on training plumbers, electricians, and HVAC technicians as its CEO flags a skilled trade worker shortage
By Preston ForeMarch 11, 2026
1 day ago
placeholder alt text
Economy
The $38.9 trillion national debt is costing you thousands of extra dollars per year on your mortgage. Here’s how it adds up
By Jake AngeloMarch 11, 2026
1 day ago
placeholder alt text
Future of Work
Shark Tank's Kevin O'Leary doesn't care if you work from your basement. He just wants to know if you can ‘execute’
By Marco Quiroz-GutierrezMarch 10, 2026
3 days ago

© 2026 Fortune Media IP Limited. All Rights Reserved. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy | CA Notice at Collection and Privacy Notice | Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Information
FORTUNE is a trademark of Fortune Media IP Limited, registered in the U.S. and other countries. FORTUNE may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Offers may be subject to change without notice.