• Home
  • Latest
  • Fortune 500
  • Finance
  • Tech
  • Leadership
  • Lifestyle
  • Rankings
  • Multimedia

Trendingnow

1

AI CEOs from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Microsoft set aside their rivalry to warn Congress AI is making it too easy to design and create bioweapons

2

Social Security faces a 24% cut in 2032—that's a $345 billion hit to retirees nationwide, watchdog says

3

MacKenzie Scott's approach to her $26 billion giving spree was inspired by a book she read in college about writing

1

AI CEOs from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Microsoft set aside their rivalry to warn Congress AI is making it too easy to design and create bioweapons

2

Social Security faces a 24% cut in 2032—that's a $345 billion hit to retirees nationwide, watchdog says

3

MacKenzie Scott's approach to her $26 billion giving spree was inspired by a book she read in college about writing
TechApple

The Apple Watch Doesn’t Say Ka-Ching to these VCs

By
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Down Arrow Button Icon
By
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Philip Elmer-DeWitt
Down Arrow Button Icon
December 12, 2015, 2:28 PM ET
Courtesy of Glance

The one sour note at Glance, the first conference devoted exclusively to the Apple Watch, came at the end of the day Thursday when the venture capitalists spoke up.

Until then, the two dozen participants at the day-long event had told a mostly positive story:

  • Asymco’s Horace Dediu reported during his opening remarks that Apple Watch unit sales in the first two quarters were on a stronger trajectory than the iPad, and he estimated that first year sales would likely top 20 million.
  • If the device stays on that track, said Creative Strategies’ Ben Bajarin, Apple’s (AAPL) installed base of smartwatches could reach 100 million by the end of 2017.
  • More than 80% of Apple Watch owners in Bernard Desarnauts’ Wristly surveys said they feel healthier since they started wearing the fitness-oriented device; 27% said they had lost weight.
  • Even the women in fashionable shoes who appeared on stage had positive things to say about the miniature Apple computers that decorated their wrists. Speaking for women over 50, Privilege’s Lisa Carnochan, said wearing it made her feel “modern.”

.

vcs
Bajarin (moderator), Solomon, Richards, Lilly. Photo: Bernard Desarnauts

Then three young men from Silicon Valley venture capital firms took their seats on a panel to assess the device’s prospects as an investment platform. Two were from GGV Capital (backers of Alibaba, Pandora, and Square, among others), one was from Greylock Partners (Facebook, LinkedIn, Airbnb).

“Most of the value is created when there’s a paradigm shift,” said GGV’s Glenn Solomon. “Right now the Watch is built as an accessory to the iPhone. Until that changes, we don’t see a paradigm shift. Until the watch becomes a first-class messaging device it will be a second-class citizen.”

In other words, he’s holding out for Apple Watch 2.0.

“The pull’s not there yet,” echoed GGV’s Jeff Richards, who pointed out that Google’s (GOOG) Android operating system commands 85% of the global market for smartphones. “If there is demand for the smartwatch category,” he said, “the majority of those watches are going to run Android Wear.” (E.g. Samsung Gear, Motorola Moto, LG G Watch.)

“Being first kinda sucks,” added Greylock’s John Lilly. But he took issue with GGV’s assessment of the competition from Android. Of the 400 startup funding pitches he’d heard so far this year, not one came from a company developing an app for Android Wear.

“The lead between Apple and all the others,” he said, “is going to be huge.”

Dediu, who hosted the conference with Bajarin and Desernauts, was frustrated that the VCs couldn’t put their finger on when the devices might find a mainstream market.

“It’s their job to say ‘when,'” he said after the event. “That’s how they make the big bucks.”

In remarks with analysts earlier this year, Apple CEO Tim Cook would only say that sales so far “exceed our expectations,” and that he expects the Apple Watch to be “one of the top gifts of the holiday season.”

Follow Philip Elmer-DeWitt on Twitter at @philiped. Read his Apple coverage at fortune.com/ped or subscribe via his RSS feed.

Be sure to sign up for Data Sheet, Fortune’s daily newsletter about the business of technology.

For more Fortune coverage of the Apple Watch, see the video below:

About the Author
By Philip Elmer-DeWitt
See full bioRight Arrow Button Icon

Latest in Tech

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025

Most Popular

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Fortune Secondary Logo
Rankings
  • 100 Best Companies
  • Fortune 500
  • Global 500
  • Fortune 500 Europe
  • Most Powerful Women
  • World's Most Admired Companies
  • See All Rankings
  • Lists Calendar
Sections
  • Finance
  • Fortune Crypto
  • Features
  • Leadership
  • Health
  • Commentary
  • Success
  • Retail
  • Mpw
  • Tech
  • Lifestyle
  • CEO Initiative
  • Asia
  • Politics
  • Conferences
  • Europe
  • Newsletters
  • Personal Finance
  • Environment
  • Magazine
  • Education
Customer Support
  • Frequently Asked Questions
  • Customer Service Portal
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms Of Use
  • Single Issues For Purchase
  • International Print
Commercial Services
  • Advertising
  • Fortune Brand Studio
  • Fortune Analytics
  • Fortune Conferences
  • Business Development
  • Group Subscriptions
About Us
  • About Us
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • About Us
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • Facebook icon
  • Twitter icon
  • LinkedIn icon
  • Instagram icon
  • Pinterest icon

Latest in Tech

SpaceX and other mega IPOs may wait years to join the S&P 500
InvestingS&P 500
SpaceX and other mega IPOs may wait years to join the S&P 500
By Bailey Lipschultz, Vildana Hajric and BloombergJune 6, 2026
1 hour ago
Former AI czar calls Sanders’ proposal for government equity a ‘stupidity tax’ and warns against nationalization as Trump mulls public stakes
AIregulation
Former AI czar calls Sanders’ proposal for government equity a ‘stupidity tax’ and warns against nationalization as Trump mulls public stakes
By Jason MaJune 6, 2026
2 hours ago
Marvell Technology, Flex to join S&P 500 later this month
InvestingS&P 500
Marvell Technology, Flex to join S&P 500 later this month
By Isabelle Lee and BloombergJune 6, 2026
6 hours ago
bernie
AIWhite House
Bernie Sanders and Sam Altman’s private one-hour meeting about the public ownership of AI
By Joey Cappelletti, Seung Min Kim and The Associated PressJune 6, 2026
7 hours ago
Chinese humanoid robots dominate the market with thousands shipped a year. But most are still performative rather than functional
InnovationRobots
Chinese humanoid robots dominate the market with thousands shipped a year. But most are still performative rather than functional
By Chan Ho-Him and The Associated PressJune 6, 2026
8 hours ago
sa
CommentaryIPOs
When good money goes bad: the question SpaceX and OpenAI investors aren’t asking
By Rory McDonaldJune 6, 2026
11 hours ago

Most Popular

AI CEOs from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Microsoft set aside their rivalry to warn Congress AI is making it too easy to design and create bioweapons
AI
AI CEOs from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Microsoft set aside their rivalry to warn Congress AI is making it too easy to design and create bioweapons
By Marco Quiroz-GutierrezJune 5, 2026
2 days ago
Social Security faces a 24% cut in 2032—that's a $345 billion hit to retirees nationwide, watchdog says
Economy
Social Security faces a 24% cut in 2032—that's a $345 billion hit to retirees nationwide, watchdog says
By Nick LichtenbergJune 5, 2026
2 days ago
MacKenzie Scott's approach to her $26 billion giving spree was inspired by a book she read in college about writing
Success
MacKenzie Scott's approach to her $26 billion giving spree was inspired by a book she read in college about writing
By Sydney LakeJune 5, 2026
2 days ago
Billionaires Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg used mortgages to buy multimillion-dollar mansions. Here’s why that’s a savvy financial decision
Real Estate
Billionaires Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg used mortgages to buy multimillion-dollar mansions. Here’s why that’s a savvy financial decision
By Sydney LakeJune 6, 2026
11 hours ago
Current price of oil as of June 5, 2026
Personal Finance
Current price of oil as of June 5, 2026
By Joseph HostetlerJune 5, 2026
1 day ago
Ohio city workers are covering automated license plate readers with trash bags as officials sound the alarm on 'egregious violations' of privacy
Cybersecurity
Ohio city workers are covering automated license plate readers with trash bags as officials sound the alarm on 'egregious violations' of privacy
By Sasha RogelbergJune 3, 2026
3 days ago

© 2026 Fortune Media IP Limited. All Rights Reserved. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy | CA Notice at Collection and Privacy Notice | Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Information
FORTUNE is a trademark of Fortune Media IP Limited, registered in the U.S. and other countries. FORTUNE may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Offers may be subject to change without notice.