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Decentralizing the internet will curb government and corporate power, says Tim Berners-Lee.

By Barb Darrow
June 8, 2016

When Tim Berners-Lee or Brewster Kahle talk about the state of the Internet, people should probably listen. The two, after all, have contributed much to the global network that we all rely on for work, entertainment, and lifestyles.

Right now, neither Berners-Lee, who invented the World Wide Web as the way we navigate the Internet to find what we need, and Kahle, who founded the Internet Archive, which stores much of the world’s information that might otherwise disappear, are particularly happy with what’s been going on with the Internet.

Both pioneers were at the first-ever Decentralized Web Summit in San Francisco this week to discuss what’s gone wrong and what can be done to put it right, according to the New York Times.

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The bad news: As the disclosures of former National Security Agency aide Edward Snowden showed, the Internet has become tool for state-sponsored surveillance of citizens, companies, and other countries. At the same time, China’s Great Firewall has demonstrated how governments can and do censor web content, keeping controversial information—such as the June 4 anniversary of the Tiananmen Square violence of 1989—out of the hands of citizens.

To compound matters, the sheer size of the companies that store data for hundreds of millions of users—Dropbox, Amazon amzn , Google goog , and Facebook fb —give those companies too much power, according to the insurgent view.

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One key solution, which Berners-Lee has been pitching for years, is more decentralization of data. That would mean the use of more peer-to-peer communication in which devices communicate with each other but not through a central server. It potentially means that the digital currency ledger system could be used to enable more direct purchases. If you want to buy a song or a book, you find the musician or author site, initiate a transaction dealing directly with that rights holder, pay and download the song of book without Apple aapl iTunes, Amazon amzn Prime, or any other intermediary involved.

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The Decentralized Web site says its goal is to make the Web “open, secure and free of censorship by distributing data, processing, and hosting across millions of computers around the world, with no centralized control.

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