This piece originally appeared on The Hustle.
There’s a rumor that Paul Graham, the founder of the world’s most successful incubator, once invested in someone because he looked like Mark Zuckerberg. But being young isn’t a prerequisite for starting a successful company.
Don’t believe me? Here are 10 entrepreneurs who had accomplished nothing by 30-years-old.
Note: This post is all men, so make sure to check out Part 2 of this post for 10 wildly successful female entrepreneurs.
Jack Dorsey, Twitter (twtr): 30-years-old
As much as he’d like you to believe he’s a sophisticated entrepreneur, Jack Dorsey was a punk skater well into his mid-20s.
Jack DorseyPhotograph by Justin Tallis — AFP/Getty Images
Dorsey’s first company (started while he was at NYU) was a cab dispatching program.
When this fizzled out, Dorsey approached Ev Williams, who was running Odeo, a podcast company. He pitched him the idea of an instant messaging service.
Williams loved the concept and teamed up with Dorsey, Biz Stone, and Noah Glass to pursue it full time. Dorsey was appointed CEO. He was 30-years-old at the time.
Tim Westergren, Pandora: 35-years-old
Tim Westergren started Pandora when he was 35. But he couldn’t pay salaries for two years.
Pandora co-founder Tim Westergren in February 2015.Photograph by Linda Davidson — The Washington Post/Getty Images
Before starting Pandora, Westergren was a failed musician, part-time composer, nanny and hippy.
Although he started Pandora (his first entrepreneurial endeavor) at 35, Pandora didn’t become an online radio channel until Westergren was 37.
Pandora started as a hardware company that allowed stores to play music. Pandora even went bankrupt in their first two years and Westergren somehow convinced 50 employees to work without pay—for two years.
Here’s the speech he gave employees each week that convinced them to stay. After hearing this words, I’d have stayed too.
Jan Koum, WhatsApp (fb): 33-years-old
Before creating WhatsApp, Jan Koum applied to work at Facebook. They rejected him.
Jan Koum, founder of WhatsApp, practicing with his trainer Ed Carpio.Photograph by Robyn Twomey for Fortune; Grid Photo: Courtesy of Whatsapp
Koum incorporated WhatsApp on his 33rd birthday. He’s a San Jose State college dropout.
After leaving school, he landed a gig at Yahoo where he met Brian Acton, his cofounder. After nine years at Yahoo, Koum applied to work at Facebook and was famously rejected, which I find pretty hilarious.
Jack Ma, Alibaba (baba): 35-years-old
Jack Ma’s never written a line of code, and the first time he used a computer was in his 30s.
Billionaire Jack Ma, chairman of Alibaba Group, speaks at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) CEO Summit in the Philippines.Photograph by SeongJoon Cho — Bloomberg via Getty Images
Now he’s worth $22.5 billion, but until his 30s he thought himself a failure. In a Charlie Rose interview, Ma revealed he failed his college entrance exam three times. After that, he applied to over 30 different jobs, including KFC, and again, he was rejected.
So, at the age of 31, Ma started his first internet company called “China Yellow Pages.” The company made around $800,000 in the three years it was in business.
At 35, he founded Alibaba. Like Amazon, Alibaba didn’t make any profit in its first three years, but we know how the story ended.
Interestingly, Jack Ma has never written a line of code. Perhaps he should be a speaker at Hustle Con?
Ben Horowitz, LoudCloud: 33-years-old
After starting his first company at 33, Ben Horowitz was often on the brink of bankruptcy.
Ben HorowitzPhotograph by Travis P Ball — Getty Images for SXSW
After graduating from UCLA in 1988 and hopping from job to job for seven years, 29-year-old Ben Horowitz joined Netscape as their first product manager.
After Netscape was acquired in 1999, Horowitz and Marc Andreessen (Netscape’s founder) teamed up to to start LoudCloud. Horowitz was 33-years-old.
In Horowitz’s book, The Hard Things About Hard Things, he talks about the many near death experiences that LoudCloud faced, such as being two weeks away from defaulting on payroll. Thankfully for Horowitz, Loudcloud was acquired for $1.6 billion in cash when he was 41. Beautiful.
Sam Walton, WalMart (wmt): 44-years-old
Before Sam Walton founded WalMart, he owned a small discount store with his father-in-law.
A photograph of Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton speaking to employees is displayed at the Wal-Mart museum in Bentonville, Arkansas.Gilles Mingasson Getty Images
In 1945, before starting WalMart, Sam Walton took out a $20,000 loan (about $250,000 adjusted to today) from his father-in-law and purchased a franchised Ben Franklin variety store. Three years later, Walton bought another Ben Franklin store, 220 miles away. But even though Walton was managing two stores, he still struggled to pay his employees.
In 1945, when Walton was 44-years-old, and had years of business experience, he opened the first WalMart.
Peter Thiel, PayPal (ebay): 30-years-old
One of the world’s most successful tech investors almost went to law school.
Peter ThielPhotograph by Adam Jeffery — CNBC/NBCU Photo Bank via Getty Images
I never thought I’d say this sentence, but I’m thankful Peter Thiel followed Tucker Max’s advice.
Before he was the founder of PayPal, Peter Thiel was just another lawyer who hated his life. After graduating Stanford Law in 1992, Thiel landed a gig at a Manhattan law firm, a place that, in his words, “from the outside everyone wanted to get into,” but, “on the inside … everybody wanted to leave.”
After seven months Thiel left, and joined Credit Suisse as a derivatives trader. Three years later Thiel founded Paypal. He was 31-years-old. Four years later, eBay acquired PayPal for $1.5 billion, making his stake in the company worth roughly $50 million.
Reed Hastings, Pure Software: 30-years-old
Reed Hastings was in the Peace Corp in his 20s.
Reed Hastings, CEO and co-founder of online video store Netflix, in 2014.Bernd von Jutrczenka — picture-alliance/dpa/AP
Most people don’t realize this, but Reed Hastings was actually a successful entrepreneur before he started Netflix. In 1991, when he was 31-years-old, Hastings started Pure Software, a debugging tool for software engineers. Hastings, a trained engineer, helped the company double their revenue each year. In 1997, when Hastings was 37, Rational Software acquired Pure Software for $750 million, giving Hastings the means to start Netflix (nflx).
In between college and starting Pure Software, Hasting was in the Peace Corps. He taught English in Swaziland. Whatta guy.
Henry Ford, Ford Motor Company (f): 40-years-old
Before starting Ford at the age of 40, Henry Ford’s perfectionism led to failure as he missed deadlines on making his prototypes.
Henry Ford With His Model T.Getty Images
Although he created one of the biggest self-made fortunes in mankind history ($199 billion), Henry Ford bankrupted his first two companies before starting Ford. Ford, like Steve Jobs, was a perfectionist who cared deeply about every minor detail of his automobiles. Because of that he continually missed deadlines and failed to complete his first prototypes.
After years of failure, Ford’s investors convinced him to hire James Couzen. Couzen convinced Ford to sell an “imperfect” car and to have mechanics throughout the country that were trained to fix broken automobiles.
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Mark Cuban, MicroSolutions: 32-years-old
28-year-old Mark Cuban shared a three-bedroom apartment with five people. His bedroom was in the closet.
Mark CubanPhotograph by Tony Rivetti — ABC via Getty Images
At 24, Cuban graduated from Indiana University and moved to Dallas to work as a bartender. His first gig out of school was selling computers for $18,000 a year. But he was fired for disobeying his boss. At 25-years-old he started MicroSolutions, a software consultancy company. After seven years, Cuban sold MicroSolutions, netting him $6 million… enough to start Broadcast.com, which he sold for $5.7 billion.